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so this guy is selling me this rogers drumkit i dont have lots of info but its 10, 12, 14 and 16 toms and 22 bass drum.. its from the 70`s heres the pic.. the price is 1,800 dlls.

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Posted on 17 years ago
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In my opinion, you are being hosed.

Theres no Rogers kit ever made from that era worth that money.

If indeed thats a Rogers kit at all. The spurs on the bass drum tell me, 1) either they have been changed out, which probably reflects shell integrity issues, or 2) its an island music era rogers. The hoops scream Island music era Rogers.

So, my opinion is that you are getting hosed. I would not pay 300 for that kit.

Rogers Drums Big R era 1975-1984 Dating Guide.
http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=24048
Posted on 17 years ago
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I strongly agree and i am a Rogers Player and have been for 40 years . Those are what are known as BIG R era Rogers drums,they are just about the least desirable of any rogers drums and i would liken them to Pearl Export at best... you can buy the same kit on Ebay for 400 or under...When Rogers left the fullerton Era in my mind they quit being the rogers so sought after by collectors . Save your money buy a true vintage Rogers set or something else...

Posted on 17 years ago
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Until about 1983, maybe even just a tad bit later, Rogers Big R were damn fine drums. And I dont need to tell you what you can do with your pearl exports. The early Big R era, were the same 5 ply shells that Rogers was so famous for, the hardware was rock solid. The sound was awesome. The XP8 era from 79-83 were probably the best drums rogers ever built. The kit this guy is asking about is an import kit, from the Island Music era of Rogers, after CBS farmed off the name to someone else. They are firewood. The Big R badges arent the same size, the Made in USA is missing, the Beavertails are a different size, the shells have luan ply. Even the memrilock ratchets were gear tooth spaced on a metric scale. They are a different size and do not match up to REAL Rogers. They are Asian Imports of the Export stripe. Ive played Rogers ever since I started playing on day one. I have a few sets.

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Rogers Drums Big R era 1975-1984 Dating Guide.
http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=24048
Posted on 17 years ago
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Until about 1983, maybe even just a tad bit later, Rogers Big R were damn fine drums. And I dont need to tell you what you can do with your pearl exports. The early Big R era, were the same 5 ply shells that Rogers was so famous for, the hardware was rock solid. The sound was awesome. The XP8 era from 79-83 were probably the best drums rogers ever built. The kit this guy is asking about is an import kit, from the Island Music era of Rogers, after CBS farmed off the name to someone else. They are firewood. The Big R badges arent the same size, the Made in USA is missing, the Beavertails are a different size, the shells have luan ply. Even the memrilock ratchets were gear tooth spaced on a metric scale. They are a different size and do not match up to REAL Rogers. They are Asian Imports of the Export stripe. Ive played Rogers ever since I started playing on day one. I have a few sets.

Hey everyone has their own opinion and that is fine by me just don't want to see anyone get hosed on a drum set...for me if it was not made between 1960 and 1971 i am not interested..but that is me nice looking drums Ploughman.. :)

Posted on 17 years ago
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Agreed, if he buys those drums, hes getting hosed. They are Rogers like the brooks mays firewood was Rogers. For as much money as he is looking at throwing away, he could find a nice Cleveland, or Dayton set, possibly even with a matching Tower or Powertone snare drum. It really pains me to see someone who hears the name, Rogers, and buys or plays one of the crappola sets after the name left the USA, and then associates all Rogers with being garbage. And Rogers wasnt the only great name destroyed by corporate mishandling.

Rogers Drums Big R era 1975-1984 Dating Guide.
http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=24048
Posted on 17 years ago
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So true ,it saddens me to see what happened to Gretch, Slingerland,and Rogers they did so much for the drum industry. now days who can afford to buy a American drum set?

Posted on 17 years ago
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Rogers Memriloc hardware set the pace for every other drum manufacturer to follow. Sadly, as with a LOT of drums of that era, Rogers had improved the drums so much, they actually didn't improve them....if that makes sense! The intrusive tubular arms of the Memriloc hardware sapped resonance and sustain from the drum -which were basically the same shells that Keller had always made for Rogers...except with some speckled gray paint.

I ordered my first Rogers kit in 1974, but the drums didn't arrive until months later and when they showed up, they were the new and improved Rogers Memriloc...which, at the time, I thought was awesome! I think I must have gotten one of the very first Memriloc kits because the snare drum had the script badge AND the Big R badge and the floor tom had the knobby mounts with the hexagonal legs...but also had the Big R badge. I can personally attest to how well they worked -because I still have a bunch of the drums that came with that kit and they still function 100% perfectly.

How do they sound? Well...I've heard better sounding drums, but they do have a sound that was of their era if nothing else.

All that said, the drums in the picture are probably worth about 1800 pesos -not dollars!

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Posted on 17 years ago
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TRUE....Anyone playing memory lock these days have stored all the tubing,and use rims or whatever,and they sound terrific.

Hit like you mean it!!
Posted on 17 years ago
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Well for me i started with swivelmatic and never looked back..i still swear by it today, i never cared for the big and bulky memriloc hardware,nor the look of the Big R badges....i like drums that when you hit them they do not move..and i can not stand the suspension systems of today ,drives me nuts watching the toms and floor toms bouncing all over the place ..guess i am just a dinosaur...i am oldschool LOL i love the sparkle finishes of yesterday and the pearls they to me have some soul..the stain finishes of today just look fugly to me ..

Ginger baker even had swivel matic tom holders on his 68 ludwig set as did alot of other players including Kieth moon, and Mitch Mitchell, i guess it just cost to much to produce it ...just like the early machined Knobbies verses the cast hollow ones ,yes Rogers set the standard and it was a high one ..Keep on Pl band3 Excited

Posted on 17 years ago
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