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Only EIGHT documented Jazzette kits?

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From mcjnic

That is utter nonsense. If you don't want to admit it, fine. That's fine. In your mind it never happened. Whatever. You have really displayed a serious lack of character here. That is the most personal I will get in this whole mess. I am truly sorry that my attempts to help you were misunderstood and I am truly sorry that this forum had to endure this tripe. I'm at a loss with how to file you away.

Cool. The feeling is mutual, then. File me away? It's an easy fix, man. Whenever you see my name on a thread, just resist interacting with me. It's that easy!

So, that'll be it for you on this thread then?

"God is dead." -Nietzsche

"Nietzsche is dead." -God
Posted on 14 years ago
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Bang! Bang! Done and done.

Posted on 14 years ago
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O-lugs, I did contribute in a constrctive way. You asked for pics of real jazzette kits and I supplied some vintage ones of mine. So, whats the problem and whats with the flip-flopping of the thread every other post?

Definition of a true Ludwig Jazzette kit: 8x12, 14x14, 12x18 with a 5x14 supraphonic snare with two classic flat base cymbal stands, one flat base hi-hat stand, one flat base snare stand, and a speed king pedal all with sequentally close serial numbers and all the non-snare drums being in a factory matched finish made between 1967 and 1975. After 1975 the bass drum would increase in size to 14x20. Is that close enough for you?

Now, anything that has been assembled out of orphans, be it marching drums or not, and wrapped or finished to match each other in this configuration should be considered a Jazzette "tribute" or "replica".

Fair enough?

Now go out and PLAY those vintage drums instead of polishing them with a diaper like one of those "corvette guys"!

DOHDOHDOH

Posted on 14 years ago
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Yes! That's a good definition! I like it. I can work with that.

I'm going to go down to my studio and play for awhile, now! See ya!

"God is dead." -Nietzsche

"Nietzsche is dead." -God
Posted on 14 years ago
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From O-Lugs

Yes! That's a good definition! I like it. I can work with that. I'm going to go down to my studio and play for awhile, now! See ya!

And don't forget your diaper!

Posted on 14 years ago
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Here are a couple I just found. All owners are apart of this forum.


Recent Purchases
-1961 SBP Pioneer Snare Drum
-1962 SBP Super Classic w/ Matching COB Supra

Working On
-1963 Red Sparkle Hollywood w/ matching Super Classic Snare

Recently Completed
-1964 WMP Super Classic
Posted on 14 years ago
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I'm going to shut this down ending on a personal overview.

1. We are all in to vintage drums.

2. I have considered similar missions with Green Vistalite Drum Sets. In fact I wanted to document and find every possible green drum and get the serial numbers and keep records. I thought it would be helpful to the owners of these green drums and the history that has been quoted many times that there were only 100 kits made.

I wanted to prove or diss-prove that well known Internet fact.

It is also well known that rare drums are documented around the world as to who owns them and what drums they are. Steve Maxwell was really into finding all of the Billy Gladstone snare drums and documenting them.

Same goes for the Cadillac Green drum sets. The documentation and securing the known sets is important to him and the value that those drums carry.

There are other examples, like Slingerland Black Beauty snare drums and early rare snare drums. The collectors want to know if and where the other rare drums are located. They will be interested in all of them, but most interested in the complete original examples.

There are other internet legends like the Prototype Acros which are not Prototypes at all and in fact unique shells and part of the first run of shells with that unique finish. How many are out there and if they can be documented would be an interesting mission.

As always, there are collectors that never post on forums or even known by us that have massive collections of drums. They do not want people to know what they have. I know of a few with over 300 drum sets alone.

They have rare sets and drum examples that will never be shown to the public.

I also feel that some people have a drive for certain bits of history and they will not tire until they gather that history.

Ask people like Gary Nelson he will go to no end to research the early Rogers drums and history. He wants to document and list every early Rogers drum example. This is a a major historical mission for him. I personally built that section of the web site for him because I see that in him and that is important to share with the drumming community.

Look at the Slingerland section by DrCJW. He studies the history about Slingerland and that only comes with research and time digging up the history and documenting it. There is no quick way to this history.

Also, at some point the history needs to be set with the understanding that things will surface that can and will change that history. So then it would need to be updated.

So whatever ever happened in this post was a major miss-understanding and I have seen it before and it will happen again. Not everyone understands each other and then things go in the wrong direction. Lets take a step back and look why we are here and why this forum was started.

It was started to help people and answer questions. I want to stick that principle and the foundation of this forum.

Thanks

David

Posted on 14 years ago
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