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Rogers XP8 re-wrap
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Jeff,..Are you gonna drill and put the snarebed on the snare shell ?
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Yes, the shell is coming without edges and bed. Might not have been the smartest move but I like to try things. As far as I know the snare drum can have 45 degree edges like the tom's do, but please correct me if I am wrong here as this is a first for me.
Jeff C
Thank you!
Jeff C
"Enjoy every sandwich" Warren Zevon
I`ve never owned a wooden snare,..for obvious reasons the metal do but not double tapered, I really don`t know that one !!
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Yes, the shell is coming without edges and bed. Might not have been the smartest move but I like to try things. As far as I know the snare drum can have 45 degree edges like the tom's do, but please correct me if I am wrong here as this is a first for me.Jeff C
My Montineri has 45 degree edges...
You can do them however you want. My Rogers Luxor has more rounded edges, but basically a 1/4" round over on the OD blended to a (probably- I haven't measured) 45 degree inside bevel...
Snare bed depth and width can have a big impact on the way the drum behaves (as well as the width of the snares chosen with relation to the snare bed width), so you might want to research that a bit before you cut them.
Red Ripple '70's Yamaha D-20 20b-12-14f
Piano Black Yamaha Recording Custom Be-Bop kit 18b-10-14f
Snares:
Yamaha COS SDM5; Yamaha Cobalt Blue RC 5-1/2x14; Gretsch round badge WMP; 1972 Ludwig Acrolite; 1978 Ludwig Super Sensitive; Cobalt Blue one-off Montineri; Yamaha Musashi 6.5X13 Oak; cheap 3.5X13 brass piccolo
xP8 Head Selection.
Originally many were equiped with Remo Control Sound White or Black dot, with an Ambassador clear reso. I have heard of everything from Emperors, Pins, single ply coated, double coated, and others.
I have coated ambassadors on a set, J1 etched on my jazz size set, and on a project set I have, if I decide to keep them, I might go emporers on top to clear ambassadors on bottom.
For the XP10 snares I have, Coated Ambassadors over Ambassador snare side, or J1Etched batter with ambass snare side. The one single ply I dont like on a snare is the G1.
http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=24048
My Montineri has 45 degree edges... You can do them however you want. My Rogers Luxor has more rounded edges, but basically a 1/4" round over on the OD blended to a (probably- I haven't measured) 45 degree inside bevel...Snare bed depth and width can have a big impact on the way the drum behaves (as well as the width of the snares chosen with relation to the snare bed width), so you might want to research that a bit before you cut them.
J!m
Thanks for the reply. I have been reading up a bit on the snare bed. Drums like the Dynasonic have something like .04 bed depth, hardly any. But in general I understand 1/8 to 3/16 depth. I found a formula for figuring out the arc also. And, I think looking and studying the wood snare drums that I have in my collection will be helpful as well. John (Purdie Shuffle) sent me some good info on drum edges last year that explains the different profiles and how they effect the sound, thanks John. Its something I will think over before diving into.
Thank you!
Jeff C
"Enjoy every sandwich" Warren Zevon
You're welcome! I hope it was of some use...
My Luxor is apart, so if you wanted some pictures of those edges I could do that easily for you.
Red Ripple '70's Yamaha D-20 20b-12-14f
Piano Black Yamaha Recording Custom Be-Bop kit 18b-10-14f
Snares:
Yamaha COS SDM5; Yamaha Cobalt Blue RC 5-1/2x14; Gretsch round badge WMP; 1972 Ludwig Acrolite; 1978 Ludwig Super Sensitive; Cobalt Blue one-off Montineri; Yamaha Musashi 6.5X13 Oak; cheap 3.5X13 brass piccolo
J!mThanks for the reply. I have been reading up a bit on the snare bed. Drums like the Dynasonic have something like .04 bed depth, hardly any. But in general I understand 1/8 to 3/16 depth. I found a formula for figuring out the arc also. And, I think looking and studying the wood snare drums that I have in my collection will be helpful as well. John (Purdie Shuffle) sent me some good info on drum edges last year that explains the different profiles and how they effect the sound, thanks John. Its something I will think over before diving into.
So wouldn`t that limit you to the depth of the bed with the OD edge ? If you do a 45 from center,you could have too deep of a bed already ? Wich ply are you gonna start the OD from ?
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So wouldn`t that limit you to the depth of the bed with the OD edge ? If you do a 45 from center,you could have too deep of a bed already ? Wich ply are you gonna start the OD from ?
Not sure I understand your question and since I dont have the shell yet I have not really thought too much about it yet. I have spent just a few minutes looking on you tube at edge and bed work but have not found much there. I could end up with a 30 degree round over edge, who knows.
Thank you!
Jeff C
"Enjoy every sandwich" Warren Zevon
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