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Where are all the floor toms ????

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Hi Kenny!

I had a feeling that it wasn't a tom you were looking for, but felt it was worth you checking out. Good luck with your search of all those toms!

Mark

Posted on 11 years ago
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Mark Thanks pal,

I would really love to find something in the red marine pearl

to finish this little U.S. Mercury kit off

it happens to have the club date/stage band style lugs

but anything that color would be a go

Posted on 11 years ago
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Posted on 11 years ago
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On one of my projects

which does include a damaged white marine pearl floor tom

one or more panels between lugs is cracked so if I could find some typical translucent wmp wrap salvaged from a drum I could make a patch as I can live with the extra seams

The other issue with this drum are the leg brackets

I have all three and all three legs also

(which are much larger in diameter than any other floor tom legs I have ever encountered)

one leg had a threaded eye-bolt very similar to that which would be found

in a Ludwig tom mount bracket or cymbal arm bracket

The brackets themselves are flat chromed steel with no holes drilled in the center for the adjusting bolt

I was baffled as to how in the heck these legs were fastened to be tight

I just found a picture today of the complete assembly

so I need two or three of the eye-bolts and three of the (flat plates pictured under the wing nut) they are apparently what helps put the tension on the leg

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Posted on 11 years ago
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I wouldn't worry too much about finding the original parts for these leg brackets. You can find all you need at any decent hardware store----eyelet bolts with an eye, big enough for your legs, washer and wingnut. You will also likely need a thick washer on the inside, in order to assist the bracket sideplate a little, to take the tightening stress. Alternately ,there are eye socket nuts, which are usually cast and come in incremental sizes. These would receive a wing bolt which would then press the leg against the back oval end. It would need to be stabilized inside the bracket somehow but that can be done.

All of these parts ,you can find plated, likely in some zinc alloy , which although not chrome, is close enough. The originals , probably weren't chrome anyway---a lot of that older stuff was cadmium------more toxic than lead.

Posted on 11 years ago
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Hello calfskin,

Thanks very much for the reply and the advice on those weird floor tom leg bracket components

And sorry for this delayed response also

as for the flat square side plate pieces under the wing nut in the picture

I would need all three of those or something similar as they are all missing

was any of what you described earlier replacements for those pieces

Or did you assume I had them ..sorry for my confusion pal ...Kenwood

Posted on 11 years ago
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I , for some reason , did not catch that you needed those too . They are pretty specialized and do contribute to the overall cosmetic nature of the leg mounts ,too. I would be looking for those from a member but in a pinch, if all else fails ,a facsimile could be made that would work , from a large, plated flat washer, with a , 5/16" hole. I'm guessing, that piece is around 2 1/4 x 1 1/2 (?) ,, so a 3" washer will work, larger if necessary. ....not sure , how much of this kind of stuff you do , or of your shop or tool settup but the side dimensions can be cut with a hacksaw or ground to size. That will leave a flattened oval shape. You need to make them into a shallow channel by marking the upper and lower size across the oval ends and then giving them a slight bend, top and bottom in a vice. Put the marked line, just above the vice jaw( protect the outer surface , with a piece of pop can or something like that, which can be cut with scissors) and bend it over a little with good heavy weight mallet or hammer, then remeasure, to the bottom line, to make sure and repeat. Cut off the rounded parts as required.

All the cut edges can be polished with a file and some water paper and touched up with a bit of silver paint----if left, they will eventually rust. The final step, is to keep checking your email. In a few days , someone will contact you with the original parts but the odd thing is. If you don't spend the 1 1/2 hours to make those facsimiles, no one will contact you with the original parts.

Posted on 11 years ago
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Hello again calfskin,

Thanks for clearing up my confusion

and I can see with my minds eye, just how to proceed with your suggestion of squaring off

some large plated washers to produce useable facsimiles of those side plates.

they should do just fine, as I would be hard pressed indeed, to hurt in any way, the overall cosmetic nature of this particular drum.

I am a real sucker for white marine pearl drums

I started with a bass drum and floor tom that were both moderately yellowed to that creamy off white

There are no badges on the drums

but based on both the tom and cymbal mounting hardware on this bass drum

I have in my collection, identical examples which carry both the "Olympian and Tempro badges

These drums have sure seen better days

the bass drum has a full length split in the wrap

located conveniently enough, toward the bottom of the drum.

just a few inches to the inside of one of the spurs so as to not be noticeable to anyone who is unaware

Now this floor tom we have been talking about, is in much worse shape

in that the wrap is badly cracked with decent sized chunks of the translucent wmp wrap missing

to expose a light coat of flat white paint which was factory applied to the outer wood shell of the drum

Ths damage involves three of the panels between the lug sets

I am trying to locate a large enough piece of translucent wmp wrap

harvested from a similar Japanese drum in order to scab on a suitable patch to restore those three effected panels

This drum I had not planned on saving at all

That is until, I stumbled onto a 13" mounted tom and matching 8 lug snare drum with the perfect amount of creamy off-white yellowing

and with the exact same mounting hardware to join up with the bass drum

So nice a match to one another are these shells

that no one would ever guess that these two sets of re-grouped orphans

were not built, beat, used, and abused all together for the last fifty years

The chrome stick saver style hoops and Slingerland knockoff lugs

on all four drum shells though cleaned of any actual rust,

all show some fair amount of pitting and chrome loss

Over all I like the yellowed, pitted, sweaty, look of these drums so much

That I just have to try and save this otherwise "too far gone" floor tom

Like I said ..........."Im a sucker for white marine pearl drums " Kenwood

Posted on 11 years ago
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And the bad of the bass drum, and finally, the tom and snare from a separate source

Posted on 11 years ago
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All the above pictures were forwarded to me by the seller's before purchase

total investment for these shabby white marines $90.00HurtingHurting

Posted on 11 years ago
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