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In 65, Sonor ended up calling the color, Sparkling black with Silver stripes !! The color had a few names !!

Do any of the moveing parts interfere with what would be a ring in place ?

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Posted on 12 years ago
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Not on mine. The bellcrank, that operates the snare hangers comes a little close but the Sonor drums I have seen had a rather shallow rering anyway and it would clear.

Posted on 12 years ago
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From vintage drum bug

To the best of my understanding this finish its called "Cabana Leopard"...Im I right?

Here`s the best I can tell ya,...In 62 Code M was labeled Black and Silver striped glitter, in 64, Code M was labled Schwartz-Silber, in 65, Code M was labled Sparkling Black-Silver striped. After 65 it doesn`t show up advertised !!

Never was it called Kristall by Sonor, that is the German word for Crystal, describeing the finnish not lableing it !! Other drum makers may have labeled it their own name,...I don`t know about that though !!

You have been mis-informed.

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Posted on 12 years ago
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From Magnus_N

No, that finish was called Kristall. You can find it in this catalog: http://www.sonormuseum.com/1963-64/index.htmlThat finish discolours like this with time./Magnus

Sorry, but I`ll take another opinion to that answer !!

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Posted on 12 years ago
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since this very same wrap was used by so many companies, I'm sure it has had many different names. There was a green version too. I have only seen it once, on a Tromsa tenor tom. To recharge my former quip about it----it was called Havana Vocado.

Posted on 12 years ago
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I see in some Sonor catalogues, that they quote inch sizes( '57-'58) but they are fractional sizes, as in 12 2/3" , 16 1/2"----which clearly indicates that the shells were actually sized metrically. In one example I noted both metric sizing and inch sizing but they seem to be describing the same shell. The metric size( example; 350mm) was rounded off to 14"--likely as a way to appeal to foreign customers who did not understand metric sizing. I have seen this with other companies as well quoting the actual metric size and the most recognizable close size in inches.

I wrote several times about the Sonor sizes on the Sonor museum site.

Sonor took as much as 2.65 cm. for an inch on several occasions. Also they convert cm. and inch sizes in a different way in the same catalog for drums and cymbals.

Difficult to tell in some cases what the correct size is.

Henk

Posted on 12 years ago
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From calfskin

Well. there isn't anything wrong----just that the shell is essentially a solid 2 layer without rerings. Isn't that odd for the time? All I have ever seen were ply with rerings. AND it is a metric shell 350mm but with the double mallet logo, which doesn't seem to have appeared until 1960 or later AND the rest of the kit similarily badged is metric too. I think they all came together.

Now about the 2 layer and Magnus' snare. I again had to go through all the catalogs, as i have no D421 without rerings.(only with) The catalog 1955 mentions this: "Spec. dried wooden shell, providing extra strenght and tonal depht. (Same strainer, long tonal control and script logo, but pré teardrop lugs.)

Tom toms however are made of plywood as written down i the same catalog.

But the 1956-57 catalog is even more clear about the shell construction: (in German language), Massiever, speziel getrockneter Holzkessel etc. ect. what means solid/massive, single ply wooden shell. (Same strainer, long tonal control and script logo, but pré teardrop lugs.)

The new beat catalog shows the D421 with new teardrop lugs and .... the Kristall/ schwarz finish. (Same strainer, long tonal control and script logo.)

The 1957-58 catalog shows the same as the 1955 and 1956-57 catalog.

There is no referring to rerings in either catalog. So maybe the New Beat series drums are the only ones that have no rerings,.....but that's only a guess based on the info given above.

So your 2 ply shell is probably a single ply shell if you take a close look at it.

[IMG]http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd200/akaqua/Sonor%20bearing%20edges/DSC04379.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd200/akaqua/Sonor%20bearing%20edges/DSC04381.jpg[/IMG]

Henk

Posted on 12 years ago
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For most of the circumference of the drumshell there looks to be a distinct seam down the middle of the bearing edge. The wood is quite dirty and under magnification has lots of areas where the grain is lightly frayed, so it is difficult to follow it all the way around. When I get around to cleaning and polishing the bearing edge , I will be able to see better, if this is actally a seam or some artifact created by being at the crest of the rounded bearing edge for 50+ years.Additionally, the bevelled overlap does not go right across the shell. It goes 1/2 way and then appears to join the seam in the middle.

Posted on 12 years ago
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Here is about the best I could do with the current camera. There is a distinct seam down the Centre of the shell. I would say the shell is solid but it is a two layer solid shell. They are not actually plys because the grain goes the same way in each.

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Posted on 12 years ago
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As far as i know, 2 layer plywood wasn't made by Sonor.

Could that darker "stripe" be a "yearring" from the tree's growing. (depending on the direction they cut the wood)

If you grind the edge a little you must recognize the seem of a 2 ply as a sharp straight line.

Henk

Posted on 12 years ago
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