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converting a 3-ply re-ring luddy tom shell to snare?

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Hey guys, although i've stalked this forum quite a bit, this is my first post. I have a ludwig 3-ply 60s/70s 8x13 tom shell thats just sitting around(when i bought a used ludwig kit, i found it inside the 18" floor tom). I was thinking of using it as a lab rat and trying to restore the bearing edges, cut snare beds, fix some gouges in the outer ply, maybe painting or wrapping it. my question: do the thin 3-ply shells make for a decent snare? I already have a 5x14 80s supra, so i would think the old shell would make for a completely opposite snare sound. i think ill try it anyway as a project, but i was curious what you all think. thanks for the input

Posted on 13 years ago
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From asmonica

Hey guys, although i've stalked this forum quite a bit, this is my first post. I have a ludwig 3-ply 60s/70s 8x13 tom shell thats just sitting around(when i bought a used ludwig kit, i found it inside the 18" floor tom). I was thinking of using it as a lab rat and trying to restore the bearing edges, cut snare beds, fix some gouges in the outer ply, maybe painting or wrapping it. my question: do the thin 3-ply shells make for a decent snare? I already have a 5x14 80s supra, so i would think the old shell would make for a completely opposite snare sound. i think ill try it anyway as a project, but i was curious what you all think. thanks for the input

8x13"? Odd

Nonetheless, yes 3 ply shells are fine. Ludwig pioneers and jazz festivals are sought after and all three ply shells.

Posted on 13 years ago
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From mountainhick

8x13"? OddNonetheless, yes 3 ply shells are fine. Ludwig pioneers and jazz festivals are sought after and all three ply shells.

...and Slingerland Hollywood Aces!!!

1970 Ludwig Downbeat
1965 Ludwig Hollywood
1970 Ludwig Jazzette
Posted on 13 years ago
#3
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I converted this old 13x9 Kent tom shell a few months ago.

I love it.... I call it The Deep Popper.

You gotta have a really low snare stand though !

:)

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Kevin
Posted on 13 years ago
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If you dont want to stick with such a deep snare....you might think about cutting it down. It is not as hard as you might think.

Here is a 10X14 shell that I cut to the size I preferred (6.5X14). I cut it first, then steamed the reinforcement hoop out, glued it back into position. I then cut the beds in, along with cleaning up both edges. I filled extra holes, re-lacquered the maple interior and re-wrapped the shell. It sounds great and made a great addition to the kit that I re-wrapped in NOS Blue Oyster Pearl.

[IMG]http://www.iknowcss.com/jj/Blue%20Oyster%20Pearl%20049%20%28Small%29.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://www.iknowcss.com/jj/Blue%20Oyster%20Pearl%20053%20%28Small%29.jpg[/IMG]

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"Blaemire Archaeologist"
Posted on 13 years ago
#5
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Cool Daddy-O!

Kevin
Posted on 13 years ago
#6
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That looks cool as hell!! Are those small classic lugs or large? They look like small classic lugs. Are they 6 lug or 8?

1960's SONOR 12-16-20-14 blue slate pearl
1968 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14Sky blue P
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14BlueVistalite
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-(14 impostor)BlackPanther "SOLD"
1964 Ludwig Oyster Black Pearl 22-12-13-16-14Supra "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14 Citrus Mod "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG Sexto-Plus 8-1 0-12-13-14-15-16-20-20-14 Silver Sparkle
60's Majestic Delux 12-13-16-22-14 red pearl
2009 Homemade Kids 8-10-13-16-12 Orange Sparkle
24 kits, 80 Snares, 65 Cymbals
Don't tell my wife!
Posted on 13 years ago
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From poppy79424

That looks cool as hell!! Are those small classic lugs or large? They look like small classic lugs. Are they 6 lug or 8?

That is two rows of 8 small classic lugs.

That would have been considered a School Fest. This snare really opens up when played.

[IMG]http://www.iknowcss.com/jj/Blue%20Oyster%20Pearl%20063%20%28Small%29.jpg[/IMG]

"Blaemire Archaeologist"
Posted on 13 years ago
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I thought it Looked like 8 lugs. How do the filled holes look on the inside?

From Drumjinx

That is two rows of 8 small classic lugs.That would have been considered a School Fest. This snare really opens up when played.[IMG]http://www.iknowcss.com/jj/Blue%20Oyster%20Pearl%20063%20%28Small%29.jpg[/IMG]

1960's SONOR 12-16-20-14 blue slate pearl
1968 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14Sky blue P
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14BlueVistalite
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-(14 impostor)BlackPanther "SOLD"
1964 Ludwig Oyster Black Pearl 22-12-13-16-14Supra "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14 Citrus Mod "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG Sexto-Plus 8-1 0-12-13-14-15-16-20-20-14 Silver Sparkle
60's Majestic Delux 12-13-16-22-14 red pearl
2009 Homemade Kids 8-10-13-16-12 Orange Sparkle
24 kits, 80 Snares, 65 Cymbals
Don't tell my wife!
Posted on 13 years ago
#9
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mountainhick, Oh, my bad, it's actually 9x13! thanks for the input!

Drumjinx, how do you go about steaming re-rings off?

also, can anyone comment on having 6 lugs instead of 8 on a 13" snare? i have enough lugs laying around(though mismatched..) to put 8 on there, i just dont want to fill the holes and drill new ones. ive never played a 6-lug snare. my assumption is that it will sound more fat and less defined with 6, but thats kinda what i want

Posted on 13 years ago
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