Pointy badges with 3ply maple/poplar/maple shells! Those are early 70s (shells as early as 69'), if my knowledge is correct. I've got the same shells and they sound fantastic. Nice score!

Thanks for the additional info! The wraps main issue is the seam coming apart on one of the wrap toms and the floor tom. What kind of glue will keep it down? Or is there some other method? I looked and the numbers on the badges are seven digits starting with 166xxxx

I have seen the guys on here talk about that repair. Try searching for a thread about it. I believe you take a scraper and peel the seam back just a little bit. Maybe super glue?? But once it's glued, take a 1x1 and two C-clamps.. run the 1x1 down the length of the seam and then use the C-Clamps to tighten the 1x1 down and let it stand for a day. Just make sure not to over-tighten and damage the shell (place a soft cloth or napkin between the clamp and the shell). If it was me, I'd be comfortable with a bit of super glue, but see what others might say.

I just measured the drums and the rack toms are a 12x8 and a 14x10....was this ever a setup? I'm used to a 12 and 13.

Not a cataloged combo but that doesn't make it wrong in any way. Ludwig couldn't offer EVERY possible combination of their drums as cataloged sets but were happy to put them together in any way or size combinations the customer desired.

That might imply a special order which could also mean the brackets for the mounts on the toms could be "factory original". If the buyer wanted a 12/14 combination and wanted them close together over the bass drum he could also request that style of holder. This would automatically put the drums closer together and at the same angle easier than was typically possible with the standard double tom holder. This bracket is similar to the Slingerland double set-o-matic as far as the way it places the toms over the bass drum and it's very possible that a drummer that might prefer those sizes (with the potential for a greater spread in tone) might also prefer that style of holder.

Quite a deal for $100, no matter how you slice it.

Thanks for the info. I'm definitely holding onto these drums. Just need a matching kick drum. I already have an acrolite to go with it :)

Thanks for the ideas. The floor tom is the worst...but at least the separation is at the back of the drum, opposite of the badge.

I've heard of folks using gel type super glue for seam repair. I've had better luck with contact cement (3M 30NF) provided there is enough of an opening to clean out the old cement, get the new glue in there and then bond the two pieces together after it dries.

Some of these old wraps will weld together with acetone (or PVC glue on newer formulation wraps) but since it actually eats the wrap a bit it requires great care and would be a last ditch sort of attempt.

The problem sometimes is if the wrap has become brittle it doesn't always want to go back to its previous shape and could just snap off when you try to force it. Lots of variables to consider.

I have some minor seam lift on the floor tom on a 1971 Psychedelic Red set I recently acquired. It bugs me a bit but I'm just going to let it go for now since I'm the only one who can see it when the drums are set up. I can live with it as long as it doesn't get worse.

I can get the wrap up enough to get some glue in there without cracking it...I may try that cement. Like you said, I may just leave it since it is a place no one from the front will ever see.

I decided to rewrap the drums. When I got the old wrap off I noticed the drums are a drak wood...is this mohogany? I thought they were maple Poplar maple.