I just got hit with my first NEG after 352 transactions... frigg'in wacko was trying to extort money from me by threatening me with NEG feedback after a $10.00 purchase.
Ebay won't even listen... it is no longer a fair market place, that is for sure.
I always include insurance in the S&H. The way I see it, the insurance covers my ass too, not just the buyer's. I sold a set of custom Stave drums to a guy last year and UPS destroyed the bass drum as in the box (and this is from the builder) had to have been dropped from 7-10 feet in order to break the shell in the way it did. The buyer filed a dispute before he even told me what happened and allowed me to file with UPS. He did this in order to cover his ass in case *I* decided to screw him. Then even after I told him that UPS was going to honor the claim, the very last day that he had to escalate it to a claim before the dispute expired and I would have been relieved of all responsibility, the bastard escalated it to a claim, again as protection in case I decided to not send him the check or something. Only after I spoke with UPS and made it so the check would be sent to him and they would deal with him directly (effectively removing myself from the process any longer and putting it all on him) he dropped everything.
But, no matter what you do, PayPal doesn't care if the shipping company was at fault. They view it as 100% that the buyer did not get what they paid for and that's that.
Even despite their ridiculous 21 day hold policy, I still sell only because I feel like where else am I going to? Forums have never worked out for me.
I always include insurance in the S&H. The way I see it, the insurance covers my ass too, not just the buyer's. I sold a set of custom Stave drums to a guy last year and UPS destroyed the bass drum as in the box (and this is from the builder) had to have been dropped from 7-10 feet in order to break the shell in the way it did. The buyer filed a dispute before he even told me what happened and allowed me to file with UPS. He did this in order to cover his ass in case *I* decided to screw him. Then even after I told him that UPS was going to honor the claim, the very last day that he had to escalate it to a claim before the dispute expired and I would have been relieved of all responsibility, the bastard escalated it to a claim, again as protection in case I decided to not send him the check or something. Only after I spoke with UPS and made it so the check would be sent to him and they would deal with him directly (effectively removing myself from the process any longer and putting it all on him) he dropped everything. But, no matter what you do, PayPal doesn't care if the shipping company was at fault. They view it as 100% that the buyer did not get what they paid for and that's that. Even despite their ridiculous 21 day hold policy, I still sell only because I feel like where else am I going to? Forums have never worked out for me.
I agree with where else can you go, but to me its not worth the hassle anymore. Ebay and paypals policies are ludicrous now......never mind the fees. Like I stated earlier. I am done with ebay for the final time.
I agree with where else can you go, but to me its not worth the hassle anymore. Ebay and paypals policies are ludicrous now......never mind the fees. Like I stated earlier. I am done with ebay for the final time.
Ebay has become a beast with a thousand heads, You cannot have the same policy if you are dealing with very hard to find items or a chinese piece of junk. They have the market cornered and theres no real competiton for them...Maybe is time for the specialized sites like this to reunite all the ex-ebay's Vintage drum seller and buyers on a renewed trading enviroment but with the spirit that place use to have? Wouldnt be that great? People is looking for an alternative!
This forum has a full eBay style system that functions just like an auction site. It is still being supported by the developer.
I pitched it last year when the forum was upgraded and moved to the new server, but maybe it was just not the right time.
I have thought about it recently, but I would need to research it more of course.
The forum is due for a complete back-up and cleaning which I would be doing in at the end of the year.
I would need to hire a VBulletin programmer to handle any new mods and integrations.
David
This forum has a full eBay style system that functions just like an auction site. It is still being supported by the developer. I pitched it last year when the forum was upgraded and moved to the new server, but maybe it was just not the right time. I have thought about it recently, but I would need to research it more of course. The forum is due for a complete back-up and cleaning which I would be doing in at the end of the year. I would need to hire a VBulletin programmer to handle any new mods and integrations. David
David: Ill keep my fingers crossed. I'm sure if the forum goes to an auction site it'll be a huge success among the community already in place. Im sure there would be a big amount of ebay refugees that'll jump onto this chance, eager for a new beginning for all of us, because of the lessons learned from Ebay-Paypal's mistakes...
If you do go this route...you might wish to make it a Sam's Club type of affair. That would give you a membership fee (to help run this beast) and the personal info of anyone who wishes to be a twit during a transaction. Just a thought.
Can I run the pay-scalp??? I promise I won't skim, just need enough to quit my day job.
But seriously, it would be for the betterment of the trading and dealing in this (item)....(a play on the CL scammers)
You would have to have some pretty strict policy and protocol in place to keep the rif-raf out, like our favorite mutt...I do know a good developer that might be interested in a low paying IT job.:D
And I might be interested in lending a hand to set up a foundation to get things rolling. I will ask around for a grant writer if you like. My second mom just started a non-profit and i am sure she knows a good one. She used to be in a high seat at SBA.
If you do go this route...you might wish to make it a Sam's Club type of affair. That would give you a membership fee (to help run this beast) and the personal info of anyone who wishes to be a twit during a transaction. Just a thought.
I agree that a membership fee for this kind of thing may be a good idea, but overall....not so sure that the auction thing on here is a good idea. There could be more headaches than wanted......
I can see where toes might get stepped on. The bidding could get strange and that would leak over into the threads. I think you may be on to something LD. This is a form of friends. It could get very bad very quickly.
