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STAR drums and it's turn to TAMA in 1974

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From Ralf

Hello Revolvoer,I personally cannot give you hope conc. the screws and hat nuts as original parts from Tama directly. Here in Germany all that old stuff was two years ago still available from the German distributor at that time - but unfortunately someone there decided in the last year to throw EVERYTHING old to the garbage ... (That's really true!)I have a selfmade knurled screw with the fitting thread, once done for such a 'Kingbeat' snare drum. I'll send it to you, if you're interested.But you can manage to produce such a screw by yourself: the original thread of your screw still seems to be working? Then take for the knob an aluminium screw that is used often as spare parts for photographic cameras, flash lights etc.It's easy to tap therein the respective thread (should be metric M5 or M6) and pull the rest of the old screw in.The missing bolt caps can be bought easily in every shop dealing with normal screws (it's also either M5 or M6). It's almost the same type.Ralf

Ralf: I very much appreciate your information and offer to send a screw that I can use on the drum. I will P.M. you to discuss that further.

Posted on 15 years ago
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Has anyone considered the state of Japanese Business practices during the late 60's and early to mid 70's? When I studied the video game industry, I learned that quite often a business would turn to a single manufacturer for a specific part. That part manufacturer would in turn use those specs to their benefit. That means that a part supplier could in fact manufacture a product that competed directly with those that they were supplying the parts for. Odd as it seems, it happened quite often. Add to that, American businessmen on the scene during that time frame wheeling and dealing as the conduit to American distributors, and you've got the correct ingredients for what you are discussing. My guess is there was an American or three involved in these dealings in Japan. The Japanese parts manufacturers put together kits to be distributed through these Americans, who added their bit (names and such), and channeled these kits through their distribution contacts. This was the same time frame as the birth of the video game industry. It was the status quo at that time in Japan. Try that angle and see what you come up with, Ralf. My guess is you will stumble upon a name or two of Americans working in Japan. Good luck.

Posted on 15 years ago
#32
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Hey, Jaye!

Nope. Never laid a hand (or stick!) on 'em before I sold them.

Posted on 15 years ago
#33
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Hello,

This is my first post to this site. I just started getting interested in vintage drums, even though I´ve been playing drums actively for over 20 years. I really like this site after browsing it for a while. I collect vintage drums on a rather small scale.

Anyway, I found this site in a search I did on Star drums. I recently bought a Star acrylic kit pretty cheap. It looks just like the one OldSchool posted a picture of - the same oval badge, non-opposing lugs and tom holder. The sizes are 20", 12", 13" and 16" (no snare though).

I wanted to inform you of the fact that the 16" floor tom sounds great. It´s the only one I´ve finished renovating. Really boomy and plenty of low end and punch. It works great with a Zicko kit I have and as you might know they are killers (I´m kinda going through an acrylic phase right now...).

I have a question to all of you Star-enthusiasts: My kit is missing the rail mount. It came with a really crappy, home-bent black metal tube screwed to bass drum. I was hoping you might know where one might find a replacement rail mount. Will a rail mount of some other brand fit? As I said, I started getting into vintage drums recently and I really don´t know that kind of details yet.

Sincerely,

Andreas

Sweden

Posted on 15 years ago
#34
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Hi ,

I have an original one for sale, look into the 'For sale' section here:

http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=9844

Interested?

Ralf

Vintage STAR (= Pre-Tama) website: www.star-drums.de
Posted on 15 years ago
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Hi Ralf!

Yes! I am very interested in the piece. 25 EUR + shipping is perfect. How do we get in contact? My email is [email]andreasalbihn@gmail.com[/email]. Mail me and let´s discuss the details.

Thanks again!

Andreas

Posted on 15 years ago
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Ralf,

I agree competely with your assessment of how to determine and date if something is a STAR brand drum. I mostly collect 60s and early 70s Pearl drums here but am broadening my interest into STAR and very early Yamaha. When I date a Pearl kit from the early MIJ period- I use the catalogs I`ve collected and it``s always the lug design, tom mount design and number of lugs that will give me the positive ID. I`m inspired by some of the great STAR kits I`ve seen lately- I am going to start hunting here in Japan to see if I can unearth a really sweet one. Thanks for posting those pics.

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Posted on 15 years ago
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You know Osaka, I am really into the Star stuff. I am finding that the Star lines and stencils have heavier lugs and the throws are much better quality. And IMHO, the shells are nicer on some lines. I know that Pearl made some really nice 3 ply shells as well.

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Posted on 15 years ago
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'... the shells are nicer ...'

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I'm 100 % with you, jonnistix (sorry, Pearl-friends!). Need another example for it?

Then look at this one:

http://www.pearldrummersforum.com/showthread.php?t=154850&highlight=star

OsakaBop is closer to this guy, who obviously lives/ lived in Tokyo and seems to barely know

how breathtaking his drumset is. My request was not answered ...

Ralf

Vintage STAR (= Pre-Tama) website: www.star-drums.de
Posted on 15 years ago
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From OsakaBop

Ralf, I agree competely with your assessment of how to determine and date if something is a STAR brand drum. I mostly collect 60s and early 70s Pearl drums here but am broadening my interest into STAR and very early Yamaha. When I date a Pearl kit from the early MIJ period- I use the catalogs I`ve collected and it``s always the lug design, tom mount design and number of lugs that will give me the positive ID. I`m inspired by some of the great STAR kits I`ve seen lately- I am going to start hunting here in Japan to see if I can unearth a really sweet one. Thanks for posting those pics.

Clapping Happy2

Posted on 14 years ago
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