And you as well. FYI
eBay listing that infuriates me!
Uhh, no, I'm talking about you guys who seem to be obsessed with this dude.
As a seller who's has/had a number of "obscenely" and "clueless" high-priced offerings, there have been encounters from non-buyers (since nearly all of these types of messages I receive the buyer's have no intention of even making a mid- or low-baller) who feel the need to be the price Stasi. These are a certain breed who begin rudely and end even ruder. I've learned to ignore unless I want to unload out of sheer pleasure : there's no winning with these types.As for Mark (idrum4fun)? He's is more than pleasant. But ... there was a time way back (2013) when Mark contacted me @ a SBP Super Classic snare I had listed. He was curious as to me reasoning for asking a sky high price. As we were literally chatting back and forth the snare sold for the asking price.That's back when people could have somewhat healthy debates about these things. We could even have quite heated debates and in the end still err on the side of still being digital friends.I've decided for a variety of reasons that it's just best to not even go there anymore. It's a wasteland.
Hi Hobbs!
I honestly don't remember about your snare drum! However, I am glad that we are able to have friendly communications!
My intention with this thread was just to express my bewilderment about what motivates sellers to price their items. We all know that personal feelings can get in the way of true value. The seller of the Bonham kit did a great job of assembling his tribute kit for his son and has every right to be proud of it. But, the asking price is still way off the mark. Yes, there's a "best offer" option, but I can't help but think that there's only so far he will go down.
I don't mind getting involved with these issues, as I think I'm in tune with true market value. But...you never know if there's just that one person out there who just has to have a kit like this and will pay handsomely for it!!
Always appreciate your input, hobbs!
-Mark
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I collect but I collect snare drums from the 1900s-1940s +/- so my question is what what would the correct price be if that Green Sparkle set was all correct, all original and of-the-era?Mike Curo0tto
This is the question everyone should be spending their time on. What do you say Hobbs, idrum4fun, DrumBob, Boslover, O-lugs, jda, V-more2000 and even JRingo: What's an unmolested original worth?
My apologies to idrum4fun. It was Drumbob's comments I was referencing -not OP! :) Anyway...I just don't think it's anyone else's concern what a fanciful seller might be wanting to price stuff at. It either will sell, or it won't. No skin off my nose either way. I'm a Bonham fan, too....but not to the point of trying to be just like him and/or play the drum configuration he played. Same goes for Ringo and Buddy.
If and when I decide to sell any of MY vintage stuff, then I'm going to price it in the stratosphere -waaaaaay beyond the "fair market value". That's the name of the game when it comes to selling -buy low/sell high.
But. like I alluded to in my earlier post....I think this sale is a dad trying to live vicariously through his son. The drum set is part of that....so the value is not found in the Kelly Blue Book of drum pricing. "We" in the vintage drum community, can't measure those values.
"Nietzsche is dead." -God
This is the question everyone should be spending their time on. What do you say Hobbs, idrum4fun, DrumBob, Boslover, O-lugs, jda, V-more2000 and even JRingo: What's an unmolested original worth?
Probably rather close to what the seller is asking. The value in these types of drum sets isn't in the drums, themselves. The value is in the association to the drummer who played them. Having said that, green sparkle is a rather difficult wrap to find unfaded, so an original green sparkle drum set with no fade is going to be at the higher end....the big bass drum and floor tom add to the price....but, other than that, there wouldn't be anything THAT special or rare about them other than being vintage drums.
Now...IF it was a set that Bonham OWNED and PLAYED, then the price could be stratospheric! Interestingly...ya gotta wonder WHY that is.....Is it because it fuels the "I want to be just like Bonham" fantasy better?
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"Nietzsche is dead." -God
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what ever the market will bare
Gary
66/67 downbeat with canister
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1967 super classic obp
once the brass ceases to glitter, and the drum looses its luster, and the stage remains dark, all you have left is the timbre of family.
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