Hi again,

Please post a pic (close-up) of the 12" rack tom. 22" or 20" bass drums are both common for those set-ups (12"/13"/16" toms). I think that one of the early pre-owners had to solve a problem with a cracked original 12" tom and he was lucky to find somehow a fitting (= the one with the same tom bracket) 12" Tama tom in acryl. That's maybe how the Tama tom came to your Star set. In your case I don't believe that the original set-up was just a 3 piece configuration.

Ralf

NB: I guess you have to buy a fitting tom with the lugs you're looking for (either from Star or an early Tama one) on ebay to get them. That type of single toms appear either in USA or Europe (preferably Germany, Belgium/ Netherlands or Switzerland - and maybe Scandinavia as well?).

Here it is. Yeah, I guess you´re right, I´ll probably will have to buy a replacement tom and strip it for the lugs. Too bad, I´ll have to buy more drums.Excited

My GF will be thrilled...

You say, you need 4 lugs - so, what's wrong with that 12" Tama tom? I can only see that all lugs are in place:confused:

Ralf

Ah, perhaps I should explain myself... I Need a total of 24 lugs to have enough for both the Tama and the Star. The pic was taken before I stripped both drums to clean them and give them a touch-up. I have put the full set of lugs onto the Star drum, but am sadly lacking 4 for the Tama. I hope this will clarify things.

Those are hard to find lugs. They did not make a lot of drums with that style lug, at least for for the US market.

Earlier in this thread there was some discussion about who made Zim-Gar. Check out these pics: http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-60s-Pearl-Tigers-Eye-Wrap-Drum-Kit-Zim-Gar_W0QQitemZ320475034198QQcmdZViewItemQQptZVintgae_Drums_Percussion?hash=item4a9dccf256

The lugs could be either Pearl or Star. Wrap looks like Pearl, but the wrap was likely just as available to one as the other. However, note that the bass drum's gray interior! So, is this set Star or Pearl?

A nice little kit - should be about 150$ -don`t you think? Needs all new heads and a floor tom and a new bass pedal to really get played. I don`t think we can think of it as "very" collectible as Zim -Gar just is not a recognized name at all...

I believe Zim-Gar was a Pearl stencil from the other Zim-Gar stuff I`ve seen on auction coming through Japan.

Just a note- my 1969 Pearl Thunderking set ( an upper end wood shell model) has all gray painted interiors which look to be just as old as the drums. I wonder if they did it that year. The 69 Valencia I have does not have it.

Well that's just great... So if both Pearl and Star painted the interiors gray at one time or another, then, besides certain badges, we hardly have any foolproof ways of telling them apart!

Also, Zim-Gar was the stencil line imported into Brooklyn, NY. So I think that many people, especially from the East Coast would recognize that badge name. I've seen just as many Zim-Gar drums as any other stencil names.

'... The lugs could be either Pearl or Star. ...'

Sorry - no: the lugs look like Star's, only.

'... I believe Zim-Gar was a Pearl stencil from the other Zim-Gar stuff I`ve seen on auction coming through Japan. ...'

Again sorry: I don't think so. Once again (like on the first page of this thread, here is a link to someone, who has also done a lot of investigations, and both we think that Zim-Gar came from Star (independent from each other!):

http://www.drumforum.org/index.php?/topic/12820-sorting-the-stencils-project/page__hl__apollo__fromsearch__1

If anyone contradicts, I will be pleased to look at a picture which verifys that Pearl made these Slingerland-style lugs as well.

Ralf

Hi - I’m reviving this old thread as I’ve just purchased a Star kick drum and would like to find out what wood was used in their construction. Does anyone know? It looks like the inside of the shell has some paint or coating applied. I heard that a lot of the Japanese kits was made of Luan, but I also understand that typically the Star kits, like Yamaha etc, was not the typical cheap stencil kits. Thanks guys.