Hi,
I've recently come across a Premier kit (shells only) and I'd like a bit more info on it if possible. It is in a plain red finish with the standard P badges. It seems to have birch shells with birch reinforcement rings like the old 60s Olympics/ Premiers. Sorry I can't provide any more details.
The sizes were 22 x 14, 16 x 14 x 8 & 12 x 8 - no snare.
Any clues to what era kit would have those sizes and shell construction?
Any help GREATLY appreciated. ; )
Any info on type of lugs or tom mounting hardware would definitely help. Does the bass drum have 2 receiving brackets, one for each tom, or a single centered one? Also, are the tension rods on the drums slotted or do the have the standard square heads? Does the badge have "made in england" or "made & reg'd in england" under the P? There is lots of info here: http://www.vintagedrumguide.com/premier.html
Hi,I've recently come across a Premier kit (shells only) and I'd like a bit more info on it if possible. It is in a plain red finish with the standard P badges. It seems to have birch shells with birch reinforcement rings like the old 60s Olympics/ Premiers. Sorry I can't provide any more details. The sizes were 22 x 14, 16 x 14 x 8 & 12 x 8 - no snare.Any clues to what era kit would have those sizes and shell construction?Any help GREATLY appreciated. ; )
I would hazard the guess, that the floor tom is actually 16x15" - an inch deeper than you write.
Other that that, the sizes are standard Premier from the sixties and early seventies - they didn´t make a 13x9 before the seventies, the 1972 catalogue the first to show it. The 14x8 was kept for several years after that as an alternative option.
Download catalogues here: drumarchive.com/premier
Your kit would be called B303 - the B denoting a 22" bass drum.
Shells are thin, 3 ply either birch or african mahogany with reinforcement rings in beech - it is easy to tell whether the shells are birch, which is lighter in colour than the beech rings, or mahogany, which is darker than the rings.
The 12 and 16 CAN be Pre-International if the kit is from before ca. 1966 - Floor toms with 10 lugs are Pre-International.
But pics, please - and we can tell you a lot more!
Regards
Jon
I've got the drums now and am now taking them apart to clean. Along with them I got two Olympic marching snares and some unknown metal hoops. Any idea what they're from, maybe a conga or something?
I've enclosed pictures to help identification easier. I'm going to re-wrapping the kit so would anybody know how to get the air vents out and back in?
The top inner shell picture is the Premier and the bottom is the Olympic, are they both mahogany? They both seem darker compared to the beech rings.
Below are the pictures of the mystery hoops.
I've also included pictures of the hoop that came with the marching drums. Any idea what the attachement is?
Cheers
I think they are both mahogany, which leads me to believe they are from the 70's. The red drum is probably from a red polychromatic red kit,three-ply mahogany with beech wood reinforcing hoops (middle 70s) and the white drum from late 70's http://www.vintageolympic.co.uk/images/1970/78%2079%20Kit%201031%20White%20Duro.jpg
I was in fact thinking it was this kit and snare/. They seem to resemble them the most as they have the same badges and the bass drum has the T mount.
I marching snares are 14 x 12" and the Kit is 22 x 14", 12 x 8", 14 x 8" & 16 x 15" with no snare.
I love this configuration with the 14x8 "pancake" tom!
Your "mystery" hoops are from a snare. The one with the hook is a top one - the hook is used to attach the drum to a harness, for marching bands and so on.
The other is a snare side hoop, with room for strainer string to bypass it.
These hoops were widely used in the twenties and thirties, with small hooks like on a bass drum hoop.
Like here:
Your drums are mahogany - the Olympic older than the Premier. Check that it is indeed International i diameter - that modern heads fit.
Nice drums.
Regards
Jon
Your "mystery" hoops are from a snare. The one with the hook is a top one - the hook is used to attach the drum to a harness, for marching bands and so on.The other is a snare side hoop, with room for strainer string to bypass it.These hoops were widely used in the twenties and thirties, with small hooks like on a bass drum hoop.Like here:http://cache2.asset-cache.net/gc/143511415-detail-of-a-vintage-1920s-premier-deluxe-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=Z0zsWpN2ukUDXYqF4boPJd1MsdRy5hwOAryGkBIjVflmMGL4UFw5Y%2B0oS9m5BfUH1ECS45mRIN0B6rfNv7yVcQ%3D%3DYour drums are mahogany - the Olympic older than the Premier. Check that it is indeed International i diameter - that modern heads fit.Nice drums.RegardsJon
Thank you so much!
One of the drums actually has "Internatioanal size" written on it. I've tried 14" Evans G1, Pearl and Premier owns makes, a Remo Ambassador and Emperor and they fit the marching drums and the 14" tom. Does this mean that they are in fact all international sizes? I've had an old 14" x 5.5" Olympic (same badge as the marching snare drums) and I've never had a problem fitting any heads to it.
Sorry, that picture link doesn't seem to work either. Do you have any other examples? Sorry, I can't believe I thought they were from congas!
Thank you so much : D
