Yeah, in my younger years I actually tried to clean that cymbal (well, the one I have anyway) and I agree- the crud back then was also higher quality! That stuff NEVER comes off! I think prisoners should be forced to clean cymbals!
Of course, cleaning will only open up the overtones and brightness, and may be why yours sounds 'tame'.
Maybe I'll send it to that guy who re-lathes cymbals in his garage and have a bit taken off the beast...LoLoLoLo
The 80's Rock Ride in my first photo has even nastier patina than my hollow block. It's so gross that I feel compelled to use hand sanitizer after handling it... :)
I loves me some good patina!
All the cymbals I have bought new, lok pretty much as they did when I bought them.
I have a habit to handle cymbals like records- by the edges only, and don't have to clean them other than dusting occasionally...
Brew - Here are a couple of links to sound files so you can give them a listen. Tell me what you think. I'm hooked on these, best sounding cymbals I've played in years.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=g-3ymGaHbKo&feature=endscreen
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4xQc6y9DUc[/ame]
John
Brew - Here are a couple of links to sound files so you can give them a listen. Tell me what you think. I'm hooked on these, best sounding cymbals I've played in years.http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=g-3ymGaHbKo&feature=endscreenhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4xQc6y9DUcJohn
I dig 'em! I'll have to save up a little dough and see about trying some.
I have the same ride as your last photo (22" hollow block) and it has so much wash to it- tsunami-like wash after four bars you can't find the stick in there anywhere...It was my first cymbal, and I'll never part with it (i don't think so anyway), but does yours have that tremendous wash to it as well? The bell looks about the same (high, wide and round) too... I just never connected with that cymbal for some reason.Do you tape it or anything?
So you've got a 22" hollow block stamp like this (which somebody else very handily just posted in another thread)?
[img]http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=51399&d=1355283718[/img]
and it's way too washy for you? Yes tape might help. I've got one 20" UFiP which is tamed nicely with a bit of tape.
I'd be curious to know how much it weighs if it is that washy. Got a scale handy?
I've been agonizing about selling the first real cymbal set I got, so I think I know how it feels for you. Ironically, mine are the Bosphorus equivalent of the Sultan pattern which John is waxing lyrical about. As seen here:
[img]http://black.net.nz/drums/jazet72.JPG[/img]
The unlathed bell and strip certainly do nice things for the sound, but I've moved into different territory.
So you've got a 22" hollow block stamp like this (which somebody else very handily just posted in another thread)?[img]http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=51399&d=1355283718[/img]
Yep. That could be a picture of my cymbal! (but it isn't). I don't have the cymbal handy (or a scale for that matter) but I can confirm it is VERY heavy!
On the up side the bell cuts depleted Uranium.Hmmmm
Just another thought about cymbal change ups. I put an extension rod on my high hat stand with a cymbal mount at the top of the rod. I use a 14 or 16 crash on top. Allows me to avoid another stand or clamp and arm and put a crash within easy reach above the hats. I did adjust the spring tension on the hats, but easy position to use.
Clever!
Did you use the upper part of a bass drum cymbal mount?
Rogers had a cymbal topper as well as other companies. They show up on ebay once in a while. Other styles are around so you can find one that suits your taste. I used a 7" extension rod on the high hat to raise the tilter to not interfere with the high hat cymbals.
