Interesting! I'll keep an eye open for one of those! Thanks!

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I have one of these, weighs about 2700 grams.

Not a lot of wash, nice stick and wobble!

Except for my hi-hats, which are 15" Avedis Zildjians from the early 60's, I've changed over to Zildjian K Custom Dark cymbals within the last year and a half. Specifically from right to left (see thumbnail):

- 15" hats extra-light (935 grams top/1000 grams bottom) v early 60's

- 17" crash light (1210 grams) v 2005 (want an 18" but still looking)

- 12" splash ultra-light (430 grams) v 2005

- 14" crash extra-light (680 grams) v 2006

- 20" ride medium (2190 grams) v 2008

- 16" crash extra-light (1020 grams) v 2000

I sometimes interchange the 14" and 16".

Prior to the change over, I was using (again right to left):

- 15" extra-light hats (935 grams top/1000 grams bottom) v early 60's

- 20" Avedis Zildjian (left-side) crash/ride light (1870 grams) v late 50's

- 14" Avedis Zildjian crash ultra-light (670 grams) v late 50's

- 18" K Zildjian dark crash medium-light (1630 grams) v late 80's

- 16" Sabian AAX Studio Crash extra-light (1050 grams) v late 80's

- 22" Avedis Zildjian (right-side) medium-light ride (2320 grams) v early 60's

or my other

- 20" Avedis Zildjian (right-side) light ride (1930 grams) v late 50's

- 14" Avedis Zildjian crash ultra-light (710 grams) v late 50's

Except for the hats, all of these cymbals have been sold during the transition period to the K Custom Darks.

I am getting my kit up and running in the new Drumgeon and I inventoried my cymbals for the first time in quite a while!

I seem to be missing a 14" paper thin I remember having at one point, but otherwise all seems good...

(All Avedis Zildjian unless noted otherwise)

22" hollow block ride (AKA the beast) I thought this was in New Hampshire but I have it here!

22" Ping Ride

19" medium crash (also a beast)

18" crash ride

15" field cymbals (great heavy hats!)- in New Hampshire

14" New Beats (played upside down)

12" EFX Piggyback

12" S.R. Hat bottom (I'd like to find the top!)

10" splash

8" splash

Others:

~6" RanCan (AKA the ash tray)

18" Wuhan China

That's it! All early to late 80's vintage; the EFX is probably the newest but it is pre serial too.

EDIT=> I forgot to mention that I will switch stuff around a bit to suit my mood, but most of this stuff sets up around my RC kit. Currently on standby, I have both 22" rides, the 19" med crash, 15" hats and the 12" S.R. hat cymbal. Everything else is set up and sounding good!

Current Set Up(s)

On my Ludwigs:

20" Lauritsen Kontro ride at 1820gr

15" Trans stamp paper thin top over 50's A heavy bottom hats

18" 60's A Flat Ride

19" K Custom Hybrid Trash Smash

On my Sonors:

14" New Beats (60's)

22" Lauristen Kontro at 2224gr

17" A Custom Crash

16" A Armand Thin Crash

10" Paiste 2002 Splash

17" 70's A Swish

Waiting in the wings:

20" and 22" 60's A rides

16" K Custom Dark Crash

8" Zildjian 30's Splash

18" 50's A Crash

18" Krut Special crash

Mounted to the wall:

40's Wuhan China 12"

50's A 17" Crash (missing 1/3 of itself)

50's A 16" Crash with a notch

For my ludwigs I have a modest 60's Avedis 13' hat, 18' and 20' crashes and 21' ride configuration. Mainly use them at the moment.

Occasionally I pick 16' Armand Thin Crash for company.

For pearl ex gig set - depends on what to play but there are some istanbuls in my case: 16',18',19' radiant and marmara crashes, 14' traditional regular hihat, 22 turk ride, splashes, china...

I am a bit new at the whole cymbal thing, so pardon my ignorance if it shows. I have been thinking about getting a different sound lately. What I have seems a bit too...hmm...tinny to me as of late? They still project well, cut well, and overall sound decent...I just want a little different tone I think.

They were relatively inexpensive Z Customs, 18" Rock and 19" Medium. I cracked the 18" a few years back so it was replaced with yet another 18" Z Custom Rock Crash. They are powerful and project which is why I got em...and I was told they can take a beating. For the blues stuff I am working on now, I think I want something a little darker with more tonal complexity. Maybe a thin or medium 14", one (maybe two) medium 18", and a grimey old 22" ride. My current ride is an older piece with the same stamp as pictured earlier in this thread, and it too weighs a ton. I usually let it grime up pretty good cause when I clean it, it gets a little difficult to control.

I just wish it did not cost a mint to try out different configurations in a practice setting. As such, I stick with my Z Customs.

The best avice is to go to a local store with the cymbal you currently own and like the most to use as a guide, and try out all they have!

I did that a few times, but (to me) it's a different world once you put it in context with the rest of what's going on. It's more my pathetic ear than anything else. For example, my friend plays with two Zil Crash Of Dooms as his mains. I was checking them out before they played one night and to me they had an extremely pronounced attack, fast decay, and overall sounded washy. However when they play it sounded totally different. They were very dark and powerful with plenty of sustain.

Like I said, it has much more to do with my pathetic ear than it does ability to store test cymmbals. GC has been extremely helpful when I search for different heads, sticks, and cymbals as far as letting me try whatever they have available. Honestly I have been looking on here more frequently to get insight.

well, don't feel bad.

I think drums can be made to sound acceptable no matter what, with head choices these days and plenty of competent shops ready to repair poorly made bearing edges.

But cymbals are so complex and personal, I can't imaging buying them on-line. As has been said before you could have four or more identical model cymbals and they will all sound a bit different. The room acoustics have such an impact on the sound that what sounds good when/where you buy them may sound like garbage when you get it home next to the others. The way the resonance of the cymbals affect the drums, and vice-versa all play into the overall 'picture' you paint when cymbals and drums are set up together.

The bottom line is: it is a big deal.