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6.5"x14" 3-ply Mahogany Super-Sensitive

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... and I'm waiting with the sticks! D' Drummer

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 11 years ago
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Kind of along the same thread, I recently found a 80's vintage Yamaha steel snare drum with a super-sensitive type throw off mechanism.

I like the idea of the SS and have wanted one for a while, but now that I found this Yamaha drum (and my obvious bias that way) I thought it might be cool- cooler still might be a birch shell from another Yamaha snare and swap on the throw-off hardware (sort of like what you are doing, just the other side of the world).

Have you seen the snare I am talking about and do you have an opinion of its sound?

Cobalt Blue Yamaha Recording Custom 20b-22b-8-10-12-13-15-16f-18f
Red Ripple '70's Yamaha D-20 20b-12-14f
Piano Black Yamaha Recording Custom Be-Bop kit 18b-10-14f
Snares:
Yamaha COS SDM5; Yamaha Cobalt Blue RC 5-1/2x14; Gretsch round badge WMP; 1972 Ludwig Acrolite; 1978 Ludwig Super Sensitive; Cobalt Blue one-off Montineri; Yamaha Musashi 6.5X13 Oak; cheap 3.5X13 brass piccolo
Posted on 11 years ago
#42
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Sorry, can't help you there, anything Yamaha is just outside my wheelhouse. Really don't know much at all about them except for a couple of back-line kits I played. (And liked!)

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 11 years ago
#43
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Check it out:

Cobalt Blue Yamaha Recording Custom 20b-22b-8-10-12-13-15-16f-18f
Red Ripple '70's Yamaha D-20 20b-12-14f
Piano Black Yamaha Recording Custom Be-Bop kit 18b-10-14f
Snares:
Yamaha COS SDM5; Yamaha Cobalt Blue RC 5-1/2x14; Gretsch round badge WMP; 1972 Ludwig Acrolite; 1978 Ludwig Super Sensitive; Cobalt Blue one-off Montineri; Yamaha Musashi 6.5X13 Oak; cheap 3.5X13 brass piccolo
Posted on 11 years ago
#44
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Hmmm, just looks like a slightly hipper version of the Ludwig SS! A suggestion if I may... I wouldn't use Birch, it's too bright and loud. I would take those strainers and put them on a new Keller Vintage Mahogany shell with the wide maple re-rings. Cut 30 degree round-overs on the edges and Fat-City here we come.

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 11 years ago
#45
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Hey John it's great to see your progress!! Snare looks fantastic! Hope you get the hoop soon. Great job.

Glenn.

Not a guru just havin fun with some old dusty drums.
Posted on 11 years ago
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Thanks, Glenn. Good to have you back safe and sound, bro!

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 11 years ago
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From Purdie Shuffle

Hmmm, just looks like a slightly hipper version of the Ludwig SS! A suggestion if I may... I wouldn't use Birch, it's too bright and loud. I would take those strainers and put them on a new Keller Vintage Mahogany shell with the wide maple re-rings. Cut 30 degree round-overs on the edges and Fat-City here we come.John

I was thinking brass (and surprised this 'high end' snare was not brass)... but Maple with a sharp set of edges might be cool (for me). Maybe 45 degrees but crested more in the center of the plies, rather than the outside... I like it very articulate for a main snare. (but I also love my Luxor, which sounds GODLY for big band stuff- you'd probably like the overabundance of warmth that drum has too)

On the other hand, this drum "as-is" might be just a gem of a drum... They had 5, 5-1/2 and 6-1/2 depths. The one I found is a 5 (and I like that). The 6-1/2 version might be a nice fit for you taste...

(I hope I'm not derailing too much!):o

Cobalt Blue Yamaha Recording Custom 20b-22b-8-10-12-13-15-16f-18f
Red Ripple '70's Yamaha D-20 20b-12-14f
Piano Black Yamaha Recording Custom Be-Bop kit 18b-10-14f
Snares:
Yamaha COS SDM5; Yamaha Cobalt Blue RC 5-1/2x14; Gretsch round badge WMP; 1972 Ludwig Acrolite; 1978 Ludwig Super Sensitive; Cobalt Blue one-off Montineri; Yamaha Musashi 6.5X13 Oak; cheap 3.5X13 brass piccolo
Posted on 11 years ago
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Yarp... I highly value 'warmth' in a drums' sound. But then, that's what I grew up with and what I use as a yardstick to measure other drums. Why I made the suggestion I made is; a super sensitive type set-up is 'already' (right out of the box,) very crisp, bright and articulate sounding. (Almost military sounding.) Adding warmth to the sound mix makes more (musical) sense to me than choosing a shell that accents the highs, is louder and has -more- attack. The Birch and double 45's would work to aid attack and projection. Just seems that it would end up sounding drier than the Sahara. It's a style thing really. Depends on what sound works for you and the musical application you plan to use it in.

Although I have a preference for deep-dish snares, I'm good to go with 5's. My pre-serial Ludwig COB Super 5"x14" is, in fact, my favorite snare dujour.

If you do the drum, please start a thread. I want to peek over your shoulder as you work. Sounds like a really cool experiment.

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 11 years ago
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Well, if I get the drum, I will run it 'as-is' for a while of course. I may end up doing something crazy with it later on, but I just found it interesting as I have had a keen interest in the super-sensitive Ludwigs as of late.

A COB 5 X 15 Ludwig SS sounds as it it would be right up my alley!

When / if this Yamaha snare happens, I will start a thread. I have to start a thread on the D-20 resurrection as well, since parts are starting to flow in now...

Cobalt Blue Yamaha Recording Custom 20b-22b-8-10-12-13-15-16f-18f
Red Ripple '70's Yamaha D-20 20b-12-14f
Piano Black Yamaha Recording Custom Be-Bop kit 18b-10-14f
Snares:
Yamaha COS SDM5; Yamaha Cobalt Blue RC 5-1/2x14; Gretsch round badge WMP; 1972 Ludwig Acrolite; 1978 Ludwig Super Sensitive; Cobalt Blue one-off Montineri; Yamaha Musashi 6.5X13 Oak; cheap 3.5X13 brass piccolo
Posted on 11 years ago
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