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Old 06-21-2019, 11:12 AM
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Top washers should be declared illegal. And all offenders should be beaten severely about the head and shoulders with rubber truncheons.
You'll have to hit my feet or spine, I'm guilty as charged and don't want to ruin your Baton.
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Old 06-21-2019, 12:05 PM
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You'll have to hit my feet or spine, I'm guilty as charged and don't want to ruin your Baton.
There's nothing illegal or moral about using one, and these days more often than not drummers do use them. What I don't understand though is why. Can you explain what advantage you get from putting a large felt washer on top of the bell? I've never done it mostly because back in the day when I started playing the drums nobody did it. The only thing I can see it used for is as a dampener, like felt internal mufflers in vintage drums.
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Old 06-21-2019, 12:24 PM
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There's nothing illegal or moral about using one, and these days more often than not drummers do use them. What I don't understand though is why. Can you explain what advantage you get from putting a large felt washer on top of the bell? I've never done it mostly because back in the day when I started playing the drums nobody did it. The only thing I can see it used for is as a dampener, like felt internal mufflers in vintage drums.
Keyhole. Every time you hit it, it will rock against the stud. Starting your keyhole. You can lift it right off so there's nothing to stop rocking it. The top felt fills in the hole on the cymbal and you really gotta smack it to rock it. One time I cut a pen for a sleeve but the cymbal cuts it. The felt lasts longer and you can re-configure it.

It will shorten the tone if too tight.
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Old 06-21-2019, 01:08 PM
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Keyhole. Every time you hit it, it will rock against the stud. Starting your keyhole. You can lift it right off so there's nothing to stop rocking it. The top felt fills in the hole on the cymbal and you really gotta smack it to rock it. One time I cut a pen for a sleeve but the cymbal cuts it. The felt lasts longer and you can re-configure it.

It will shorten the tone if too tight.
I've been playing for 60 years and I never keyholed a cymbal yet with no top washer, but then again I don't play hard rock.
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Old 06-21-2019, 01:23 PM
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I've been playing for 60 years and I never keyholed a cymbal yet with no top washer, but then again I don't play hard rock.
I started out playing speed metal and death rock. Always goofing on jazz and elevator music.

I'm in about a year and a half learning jazz and elevator music now. You learn quickly that it's endless as the others are limited. All heavy, speed, death rock groups sound the same. Can't say that at all about Jazz.
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Old 06-21-2019, 01:51 PM
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It's only a state of mind, and the state of my mind is just fi.....
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Hello. I'm sorry, Who are you? What were we talking about again?
You know I remember when..........no I don't remember.

Anyway I was there, but for some reason I actually don't remember the 70's AT ALL. And I used to know why, but I forgot that too.
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Old 06-21-2019, 02:49 PM
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I started out playing speed metal and death rock. Always goofing on jazz and elevator music.

I'm in about a year and a half learning jazz and elevator music now. You learn quickly that it's endless as the others are limited. All heavy, speed, death rock groups sound the same. Can't say that at all about Jazz.
I know it was not Intentional, but mentioning jazz and elevator music in the same sentence twice is kind of insulting to us life long jazz players and lovers. Maybe elevator music means something different today, but it originally referred to the calming and numbing background music provided by Muzak Corporation to make longer high rise elevator trips more tolerable. The term was not complimentary.
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You know I remember when..........no I don't remember.

Anyway I was there, but for some reason I actually don't remember the 70's AT ALL. And I used to know why, but I forgot that too.
You sound much more confused than I do. Here's my chance. Wanna buy some top of the line Zildjian ZBT professional cymbals?
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Old 06-21-2019, 03:33 PM
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I know it was not Intentional, but mentioning jazz and elevator music in the same sentence twice is kind of insulting to us life long jazz players and lovers. Maybe elevator music means something different today, but it originally referred to the calming and numbing background music provided by Muzak Corporation to make longer high rise elevator trips more tolerable. The term was not complimentary.
It wasn't, I referred to all slower as elevator or jazz, just lumping I guess.

I also tend to stray away from threads with my references to it because I run out of recipe's for crow.
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Old 06-21-2019, 04:40 PM
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Keyhole. Every time you hit it, it will rock against the stud. Starting your keyhole. You can lift it right off so there's nothing to stop rocking it. The top felt fills in the hole on the cymbal and you really gotta smack it to rock it. One time I cut a pen for a sleeve but the cymbal cuts it. The felt lasts longer and you can re-configure it.

It will shorten the tone if too tight.
"I don't use no felts, and my cymbals swing free, but I ain't never worn through no cymbal sleeve."

That my hip-hop rhyme for the day. Dig it.
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