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Will my 1990's yammy's ever be considered vintage?

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Just wondering since there seems to be no consensus on the definition of vintage, will my 1990s yamaha maple custom absolutes ever be considered vintage? If so will it be long after I'm dead and buried or in just a few years.

1958 Gretsch Kit
1966 Kent Kit
1969 Ludwig Standard Kit
1970 Rogers Power Tone Kit
1970's Ludwig Vistalite Kit
1994 Yamaha Maple Custom
2010 Yamaha Maple Custom
28 assorted snares (including some real crap)
and 1 really nice K Zildjian Istanbul
Posted on 11 years ago
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They will be one day. Whether you're around when they do will largely depend on whether a gust of wind or earthquake comes along and buries you under your huge pile of cymbals while you're playing:D

Andrew

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Posted on 11 years ago
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Watch out Terry Bozzio, here comes mcdrummer!

Posted on 11 years ago
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If less is more, then just think how much more, more is!

1958 Gretsch Kit
1966 Kent Kit
1969 Ludwig Standard Kit
1970 Rogers Power Tone Kit
1970's Ludwig Vistalite Kit
1994 Yamaha Maple Custom
2010 Yamaha Maple Custom
28 assorted snares (including some real crap)
and 1 really nice K Zildjian Istanbul
Posted on 11 years ago
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A kit produced this year is "of a 2013 vintage", so, yeah, your kit could be considered vintage. There is no widely-accepted cut-off time of, say, 25 years old, or anything ridiculous like that, to qualify something as "vintage". It's not like your kit is "not vintage" now, but will become so after an amount of time has passed. That's a ludicrous statement, one that has been perpetuated by people who don't know what in the world they're talking about.

If you're referring to the "vintage" as in the vintage drums talked about on here, it's about drums from about the mid-70s and older. About that cut-off time, drums were starting to be made in completely new ways to handle the louder music being played on them. The drums from the mid-70s and before were made differently, and have a certain quality to them that you don't see in modern drums, even the ones made to emulate the drums of yesteryear. So, a 90s kit? Nope. Not ever going to be considered "vintage" in the way that a 50s Gretsch round badge or a 60s Ludwig keystone kit is. That doesn't mean it's not a nice kit, though...

1970 Ludwig Downbeat
1965 Ludwig Hollywood
1970 Ludwig Jazzette
Posted on 11 years ago
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In late 80's early 90's guys at the music stores wanted NOTHING to do with 70's drums, they were not considered vintage, or even quality by some. Same with guitars and amplifiers, 70's Gibson guitars had crappy quality control, everyone wanted 50's and early 60's, fender blackface amps, pre CBS strats and tele's all day. silver face post CBS stuff was no deal. Try and buy a 70's Gibson or fender under $1500 today, not going to happen.

People are asking top dollar for butcher block ludwig big beat sets. You couldn't get $200 for them in 1995. I've been looking for 87/88 Yamaha tour custom Toms for years when I see them on eBay most of the drums go for over $250. And now they say "vintage MIJ Yamaha" MIJ was almost a curse word in 1976 now it's better than china or Indonesia.

And at some point we will run into a shortage of what is considered vintage today and thus the definition of acceptable drums will widen, maxwells drum shop has started dealing with some japanese vintage drums.

only certain quality? that will change too. it's already happened, how do you explain stencil drum collectors? The drumset I learned on cost my brother $20 in a yard sale, now guys are posting them on eBay for $300!!

So I think no matter what, your drums at some point will be vintage.

Even though most of us on here think everything went to hell after 1975. If there was a forum in 1965 those guys would say the best drums were in the days when they used calfskin heads. Just like the guys in the future will say everything went downhill when they stopped making drums in Japan.

I like Drums...
1963 Ludwig Downbeat Champagne Sparkle
1964 Leedy (Slingerland) Blue n Silver Duco
1964 Ludwig Club Date Sparkling Silver Pearl
1966 Ludwig Super Classic Sparkling Silver Pearl
1968 Gretsch round badge modern jazz orange stain
1972 Slingerland 85N Pop outfit Light Blue Pearl
1976 Ludwig Vistalite clear
1981 Gretsch SSB Gran Prix Rosewood
1987 Yamaha Turbo Tour Custom Mellow Yellow
1991 Pearl Export Ferrari Red
Posted on 11 years ago
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Vintage as an ajective means old fashioned or obsolete, So one day his drums will !i

It`s a drum,.....Hit It !!

.....76/#XK9207 Phonic Sound Machine D454/D-505 snares !i
Posted on 11 years ago
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From clubdate64

In late 80's early 90's guys at the music stores wanted NOTHING to do with 70's drums, they were not considered vintage, or even quality by some. Same with guitars and amplifiers, 70's Gibson guitars had crappy quality control, everyone wanted 50's and early 60's, fender blackface amps, pre CBS strats and tele's all day. silver face post CBS stuff was no deal. Try and buy a 70's Gibson or fender under $1500 today, not going to happen. People are asking top dollar for butcher block ludwig big beat sets. You couldn't get $200 for them in 1995. I've been looking for 87/88 Yamaha tour custom Toms for years when I see them on eBay most of the drums go for over $250. And now they say "vintage MIJ Yamaha" MIJ was almost a curse word in 1976 now it's better than china or Indonesia. And at some point we will run into a shortage of what is considered vintage today and thus the definition of acceptable drums will widen, maxwells drum shop has started dealing with some japanese vintage drums. only certain quality? that will change too. it's already happened, how do you explain stencil drum collectors? The drumset I learned on cost my brother $20 in a yard sale, now guys are posting them on eBay for $300!!So I think no matter what, your drums at some point will be vintage.Even though most of us on here think everything went to hell after 1975. If there was a forum in 1965 those guys would say the best drums were in the days when they used calfskin heads. Just like the guys in the future will say everything went downhill when they stopped making drums in Japan.

Nice, very nice synposis/analysis right there. I agree. All it takes is a sudden interest in early-mid '80s bands and voila my Ludwig Rockers set's value goes through the roof (let's hope...haha!). I know those '80s keytars were a hot item for awhile on ebay.

The greatest gift you can give your family and the world is a healthy you. - Joyce Meyer
Posted on 11 years ago
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Ya nailed it ClubDate... I owned an antique store in the early 70's. At the time, folks would literally use Mission furniture / items for packing.

My brand new mid sixties Crown kit was a joke to the kid across town that had a Slingerland.

I've just finished prepping another old 70's vintage CB 700 kit and was actually marveling at the quality of construction. Yesterdays junk becomes tomorrows treasures.

Now, about those cymbals... playing in a breeze could be hazardous to your health!

From clubdate64

In late 80's early 90's guys at the music stores wanted NOTHING to do with 70's drums, they were not considered vintage, or even quality by some...

fishwaltz
Posted on 11 years ago
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I couldn't see the drums. Is there another pic?

B

Vintage Drum Fan (Not a Guru)
Posted on 11 years ago
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