Bill, you have to get past that cymbal forest. I've read reports that the drums are in there.

Nice set up!

If drums for the 70's and earlier are considered vintage, then your kit will need to wait 30 more years or so to gain the vintage title.

sorry i have to say no

Ya gotta be careful about this "vintage" thing.

There's all kindsa grey.

"vintage valuable/sought after" is not the same as "vintage not so valuable/no one really cares.

For cars, the definition of "antique" is 30 years

All 30 year old cars are not desirable though.

The vintage market is affected by alot of things including rarity, oddness, fashion, collectability, notoriety, build quality, etc.

Take Pearl exports for example. An old set that says "made in japan" on the badge...Yeah yeah.

If the badge says "made in Taiwan" or china or indonesia.....eh not so much.

Old Tamas that were made the way new star classics are made are also drums to watch for.

Bottom line, it's not enuf for your kit to be old.

What you want is a GOOD old kit.

I guess the next question is what exactly is a GOOD old kit? That's as subjective as asking what is vintage, isn't it?

Not really.

A good old kit is a good kit that has survived long enuf to become old.

The age simply makes them better.

Being well played makes the drum produce a more defined fundamental note.

A drum that is junk will still be junk in 50 years.

For example, those Remo acousticon shells will NEVER be good. Age will not help them.

In 50 years, they will indeed be vintage but they will still sound crappy and still no one will want them (except as an oddity)

Ditto... I couldn't agree more. Junk is junk, regardless of it's age. Until you get to antique junk... and that's a different animal all together.

The oddity thing does apply. Cars like the Corvair, Edsel, and DeLorean have value because of their oddness and rarity.

This next line may get me banished from the forum.

Although their drums are of great quality, I would wager that the value of Camco drums has largely to do with the rarity of these drums. There were many other quality drums made during the time Camco was around, I'd say Camco sets in the same configuration and condition will nearly always fetch more money than their Ludwig, Slingerland, Gretsch, and Rogers counterparts, is there anything that makes them bounds better than the others?

How about trixon? I'd say the oddity thing is in full effect here.

If there are kids lusting over Yamaha maple customs that can't afford them today, then yes some day people will want them.

Btw the wasn't the Pearl export always made in Taiwan? Hence the name "Export" ?

Yes, they will be.

Everything (particularly complex items that are focused in and around popular culture) can become "vintage". It's just a matter of time. Although we think they are modern now pretty soon the hardware, design and shells of modern kits will age them so they have a very "vintage" feel.

In a few years early 9000s will go for classics to vintage kits.

I generally agree.

"Vintage" is a social construction - which is another way of saying that "vintage" is what is generally accepted as "vintage". This is bound to change over time.

"Vintage" generally means "old and attractive" - in different combinations. The older, the easier an item gets the label. The fewer survivors, the easier an item gets the label.

Today, kits like a middle-class Yamaha is being turned out in huge numbers compared to what was made in the sixties - even though the output in the sixties was huge compared to the output in the thirties.

This means that a newish kit will either have to be top quality (and therefore attractive) from the beginning - or have some other asset like being rare, odd or having provenience in order to stand out and be accepted as "vintage".

Bear in mind that in 30 years time, the now-existing kits from the thirties, fifties and seventies will still remain and compete on the "vintage" market.

So the answer is both a yes and a no. Your kit will to some degree get a certain amount of collectability over time. But not very much compared to kits 20, 40 or 60 years older - and not as much as a top notch handbuilt custom kit from the same year as yours.

I think.....

Regards

Jon