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The worst Speed King

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The description said something about it being 'stiff.' Well, I've done 3 or 4 Speed Kings so I figured it would be business as usual.

This is the WORST. The lubricant is like freaking concrete. The goo is beyond recognition. There is one drive post I can NOT get out of the column.

What do you soak these in to loosen them up? Mineral spirits? Gasoline? Brake fluid (that's a favorite of an old mechanic friend of mine. When confronted with frozen calipers or whatever, he'd soak them in brake fluid -- thought it was the thinnest. Didn't always work)

Plan B, starting to look likely, is to salvage for parts and save the headache...

DOH

Posted on 12 years ago
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mine was similar to yours, so I removed the end caps (tap with hammer method) and the used a thin wire rod to push it out from the top

Posted on 12 years ago
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I did get one out. The other, I ushed down far enough with an allen wrench tapped with a hammer, so I could grab the other end with a needle nose pliers. I grabbed and pulled....and the damned thing separated! All I had was the thin piece.

I mean, it's bad. I did just come home with brake fluid, and JB Blaster, which I know from experience is great on rusted and jammed bolts/nuts.

Not ready to give up yet... NOW it's ****ed me off!

Posted on 12 years ago
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> NOW it's ****ed me off!

Then the grease plug doesn't stand a chance!

Git'R done!

Best of luck with the restoration. The reward on the other end is, playing one of the best bass drum pedals ever made. Been using speedkings for 48 years.

John

Too many great drums to list here!

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Posted on 12 years ago
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use a heat gun or blow torch.

heat the column up and it soften the dried up grease and it will slide right out.

You just want to get it a little too hot too touch. Just barely touch the tip of the flame to the column and keep it moving. You should be able to get it hot enough without messing up the paint. If you are darkening the paint, you are getting it too hot.

Posted on 12 years ago
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Good plan -- I have it soaking in the PB Blaster right now. I have a good heat gun -- after it soaks, I apply the heat.

I need it to slide out, because I just don't have a tool that' flexible to reach it, and strong enough to take a hammer tap...

Posted on 12 years ago
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Be careful using that heat gun after the PB (JB?)Blaster or brake fluid! :eek:

Gary G.
1963 Ludwig Gold Sparkle Hollywood Kit
Ludwig Collection: 10 Vintage Snare Drums, 4 Customized Vintage Snare Drums, 4 Vintage Foot Pedals, 1 Single Value Bugle
Posted on 12 years ago
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Ah! Very wise! My wife was happy when I started restoring vintage hardware after working on old VWs. She said, "at least you won't start any fires"

Thanks for the reminder.

I had trouble getting the pedal shaft/rotating part out of the bearing - really gooey. Soaked in the PB Blaster, set the outer race on a 15 mm socket, and used a punch to tap the piece out.

The bearings are an odd size -- 7/16 ID and 7/8 OD. Couldn't find them online (I did find a source for Slingerland Tempo King bearings). Any ideas?

[IMG]http://i645.photobucket.com/albums/uu172/wafulton/Speed%20King/th_IMG_0001.jpg[/IMG]

Posted on 12 years ago
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Well, I'll be damned. It's out. Soaking it enough got it loose, PB blaster up the tube, then use the adjusting screw to hold it in, then sprayed it down the top, too. Tapped it from the bottom up to loosen it, then used an allen wrench and a 1/8 or so wooden dowel that'd flex to push it out. Still caked with goo, but I think mineral spirits and a brush will work...

I'm pretty sure nearly everyone would find this boring, but hey, this IS a restoration forum!

[IMG]http://i645.photobucket.com/albums/uu172/wafulton/Speed%20King/th_IMG_0003.jpg[/IMG]

Walking

Posted on 12 years ago
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Yes, If you have added a solvent you want to be very careful if using heat.

most ball bearings are measured in millimeters. I have a couple of pedals apart right now. I will try to measure them this weekend and look up the correct bearing. I buy lot's of bearings to rebuilt tools so if it is a standard size I can find it. It might not be a standard size bearing however.

Ludwig still sells them if you can't find them over the counter.

Posted on 12 years ago
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