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Tama Swingstar - Restoration Project

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Yes I use both Nylon and SS... I think though for the Tama BD Claws SS is more suitable..

Cheers

'77 Slingerland 51N,Super Rock 24,18,14,13.. COW 8,10 Concert toms
'69 Slingerland Hollywood Ace
'75 Rogers Dynasonic 6.5 x 14, 10 lug COB
'77-78 Slingerland 6.5 x 14, 10 lug COB
'78-79 Slingerland 5 1/4 x14 8 lug COB
'79 Biman 5 1/4, Acrolite
'82 Slingerland 5 1/4 x 14. Festival COS
'84 Tama MasterCraft Superstar 6.5 x 14, 10 lug Rosewood
'98 Slingerland (Music YO) 6" 10 Lug Maple.. NOS
Zildjian, Sabian , UFIP & Paiste mix.
Posted on 8 years ago
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Hey,

It's been a while since I updated this topic.

Finaly I got some time to continue this project.

Today I put the bass drum lugs together. I took some lugs from a Rockstar bass drum.

[IMG]http://i1028.photobucket.com/albums/y341/joaojanina/Mobile%20Uploads/20151226_194138-800x450_zpsd2jtvgnj.jpg[/IMG]

In the next step I'll clean the bass drum t-rods, claws, and hoops.

The bass drum shell still needs to be cleaned and the toms shells need to be polished.

The bass drum spurs and the floor tom legs are missing. I bought a compatible spurs that should be delivered next week.

See you in next post.

Posted on 8 years ago
#72
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Looking good!!

Creighton

Nothing special here but I like them.
Posted on 8 years ago
#73
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Today I cleaned the bass drum T-rods. Still missing two t-rods and claws. Anyway, check the photos below.

Happy 2016 to you guys, wish you all the best.

John.

Before:

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[IMG]http://i1028.photobucket.com/albums/y341/joaojanina/Mobile%20Uploads/20160102_174042-800x450_zpsgtilrqfk.jpg[/IMG]

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[IMG]http://i1028.photobucket.com/albums/y341/joaojanina/Mobile%20Uploads/20160102_174156-800x450_zpsh5o6hrvr.jpg[/IMG]

Posted on 8 years ago
#74
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After:

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[IMG]http://i1028.photobucket.com/albums/y341/joaojanina/Mobile%20Uploads/20160102_222327-800x450_zps2iwwrfph.jpg[/IMG]

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[IMG]http://i1028.photobucket.com/albums/y341/joaojanina/Mobile%20Uploads/20160102_222348-800x450_zpszmigksa4.jpg[/IMG]

Posted on 8 years ago
#75
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Nice job!!

Creighton

Nothing special here but I like them.
Posted on 8 years ago
#76
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WOW - this is really fun to see this. You are doing a GREAT JOB of documenting your progress. I am a fan of these kits, as a friend of mine has one and it is rock solid even after all these years (his is an early 80s).

I love that Vinegar soaking. I usually just soak those in Dawn/water like any other chrome, but it appears that the vinegar is better for such parts.

So, after the soak, then brush it all off, then sprinkle with baking soda, then rinse and dry? Then anything else? Do I have that right?

You kit and parts look AWESOME! I see you have some pitting, but it will not even be a factor as it is not too widespread. Same with the splitting (cracking) on the wrap. I have only seen that two drums in all my experience (had alot of great wrap on everything I have restored/flipped). I wonder if there is anything that can be done to prevent further cracking or it getting any worse.

Keep up the great work! There will come a time, quite soon, where it will all pay off and you will not be able to take your eyes off it! In this case, it will sound as good as it looks so long as you use new heads and the edges are good and you get a good tuning. It'll happen, as these shells are good and if you have any questions on that part of it - we are all here for ya to advise.

-John

I had a great day! Instead of sleeping in and wasting the day, I got up at 8 and I had all my slacking done by noon!

2Timothy1:7
Posted on 8 years ago
#77
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From Drummerjohn333

WOW - this is really fun to see this. You are doing a GREAT JOB of documenting your progress. I am a fan of these kits, as a friend of mine has one and it is rock solid even after all these years (his is an early 80s). I love that Vinegar soaking. I usually just soak those in Dawn/water like any other chrome, but it appears that the vinegar is better for such parts. So, after the soak, then brush it all off, then sprinkle with baking soda, then rinse and dry? Then anything else? Do I have that right?You kit and parts look AWESOME! I see you have some pitting, but it will not even be a factor as it is not too widespread. Same with the splitting (cracking) on the wrap. I have only seen that two drums in all my experience (had alot of great wrap on everything I have restored/flipped). I wonder if there is anything that can be done to prevent further cracking or it getting any worse. Keep up the great work! There will come a time, quite soon, where it will all pay off and you will not be able to take your eyes off it! In this case, it will sound as good as it looks so long as you use new heads and the edges are good and you get a good tuning. It'll happen, as these shells are good and if you have any questions on that part of it - we are all here for ya to advise. -John

Hi John. I'm glad you continue following this project, thank you.

About the vinegar process, let me give you some topics.

This is my personal method, I keep doing it because I tested it on cheap old drums first and the results were pretty good. I did it almost 2 years ago and the kit stills looking good.

Here it is:

[LIST]

[*]You'll need:

[LIST]

[*]Vinegar - I use the cheapest vinegar I found. Usually it is wine vinegar and has 5%-6% acidity

[*]Glass jar - I think this is the best container for small parts because the cover prevents leakage and reatains the smell. I let the jar in the garage, doing it inside house may smell not so good.

[*]Baking soda - I use it to dry the parts

[*]Toothbrush - It's good to remove the rust from some spots

[*]Parts - :)

[/LIST]

[*]Steps:

[LIST=1]

[*]Put the parts in the jar first

[*]Fill the jar with vinegar until it covers all the parts

[*]Put the jar cover

[*]Let it for about 12h/24h, depending on the rust you have.

[*]Take the parts and scrub them with the toothbrush. If you notice that the rust is still difficult to remove, repeat the previous steps with clean vinegar.

[*]While scrubing, keep the toothbrush clean, use the jar vinegar. After scrub a part you'll notice that the rust is coming off.

[*]When a part is rust free, put it in baking soda. It helps drying and neutralizes the acid pH of vinegar. Note: If you use water, probably you'll notice almost instant oxidization, specially where the chrome is affected. It happened to me once.

[*]When you have all parts in baking soda, it's time to clean them. You'll notice a "squashy" compound due to the vinegar and soda union.

[*]Use a dry soft cloth to remove all the left baking soda.

[*]The end! All parts cleaned up and looking good. If you want, lubricate them to prevent rust.

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[*]Tips and Advices:

[LIST]

[*]Try it first with cheap parts. Use some old rods and lug nuts for example.

[*]You can use this method with cast, steel, plastic and other types of parts. The vinegar acidity can't "eat" the material itself.

[*]Usually, I do this for rods, lug nuts, screws, lug springs, and other small parts

[*]Attention: some zinc plated parts can be affected and become even more rusty. This happened to me once with "yellow" lug screws. No problem with lug nuts yet.

[*]Avoid using water. If you use it, dry the parts well.

[/LIST]

[/LIST]

Cheers,

John

Posted on 8 years ago
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Hi. Today was the bassdrum claws day. As you can see, there are some rusty claws. The claw shape makes it hard to clean by hand, so I decided to use the vinegar method again. I hope this will let the chrome clean and ready to polish.

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[Edit]

Later I found 2 claws in acceptable condition inside a bag full of old parts. They already joined the others.

See you in the next post.

Posted on 8 years ago
#79
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Finish the claws in DAWN. Check after 24 (for sure) but it may take longer. You will have pitting, but the Dawn will finish it off for ya. Good you found a couple better ones. Those should not be too hard to find if you still need to replace a couple.

Awesome!

I indeed DO have some chrome parts that are too far gone (and other smll bit parts) and I will try this the vinegar method in the next 3-4 days.

John

I had a great day! Instead of sleeping in and wasting the day, I got up at 8 and I had all my slacking done by noon!

2Timothy1:7
Posted on 8 years ago
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