What I've heard is that they're doing it like Gibson did with their high ticket re-issues. Basically, cloning Ringo's Jazz Fest.

And it's gonna be high ticket I'd think.

Yup, I figure the closest I'll ever come to one is if I get to look at the one you'll surely buy ;)

if they do recreate the P-83 for this hopefully it will become available again as a regular part. That would be one easy way to recoup the tooling costs.

https://www.facebook.com/Ringosbeatlekitscom/photos/gm.184750762113253/1556103837837927/?type=3

Here he is holding the real one

Very interesting statement. Initially I was thinking "who wouldn't want one". Is it an "American" mindset? It is sort of a contrived collectable.

Haha, all right... I don't think it's neccessarily an American mindset... quite possibly it's just that I myself don't have a collectors mindset.

My line of thinking is roughly as follows:

We like Jazzfests because they're vintage. There's plenty of good sounding new drums, but original 60s ones are cool, because they've been to the 60s (super cool for me, born in the 90s). They're even quite similar to what Ringo played!

And now somebody makes a limited edition of crazy-priced REPLICAs of Ringo's drum. Neat, but are they from the 60s? No.

The way I feel it, any Jazzfest from the 60s is closer to the Ringo's one than these replicas, because it's actually from that era.

BUT if the replicas are well made, with all the right details, they'll sound much the same, so there's no problem. They just won't have that charm for me, as the're from 2017. On the other hand, that charm is a highly subjective and mostly irrational emotional thing, so it's just a matter of preference.

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The other Achilles heel of any project like this will be getting the wrap just right. They have yet to capture the true look of the original stuff but maybe this will be the time when they finally do.

K.O. raises a prime disincentive to me. I tried to reproduce a Ringo kit once upon a time. I had a champagne set that was nasty looking from splotching and had the holes blown in the bass for the center tom mount. Otherwise original and sound with good chrome. The result was very disappointing, and in particular because the wrap was not even close to the 60's wrap. I paid one of the experts to do the work on the shells. Even the seams were in the wrong place when I got them back. I sold it for what I had into it, which was actually too much.

I'd still buy a 60's original one in decent shape if it came up at a reasonable price, say, twice what one would pay for the other colors. However, they normally are priced way out of my range of reality.

So I'll be skipping this snare drum offering. I doubt it will be very close to what Ringo was hitting when he arrived here in '64.

Hey Dan!

That was a great looking "Ringo" kit...even though you weren't happy with it!

-Mark

I'm sure K.O. will remember this thread, posted on DFO back in 2015... http://www.drumforum.org/index.php?/topic/113222-dear-ludwig-its-time-reissue-a-real-ringo-snare/

-Mark

KO, Since I own a 1962 Oyster Black Jazz Fest I most likely won't be purchasing the "tribute" drum.

I kind of thought that ( and my statement was meant mostly tongue in cheek anyhow) but then again as a Ludwig "comepletest " shouldn't you have one?