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Snare Identification

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Can anyone identify what make this snare is? It probably dates to the late '60s. There is a grommet but no badge.There are no markings at all except for "A2" stamped on the inside of the lugs. The shell is three ply and has buckled. The hardware seems to be of a reasonable quality so I was considering cleaning it up and putting it on a better shell. It's 14 by 5" and 8 lug. The spacing on the lug screw mounts is 2". The spacing on the throw screw mounts is 2 3/4" If anyone has thoughts on what brand this might be or what brand would serve as a good quality replacement (without me having to drill 20 holes) that would be a great help. Thanks, Paul

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Posted on 11 years ago
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Looks like yr regular run of the mills *** drum..

From the wood grain inside...

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Posted on 11 years ago
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That's a pretty fair assessment. The thing that's curious to me is that this snare came as part of a set that that included a nice slingerland bass and a leedy tom. Since I don't know much about vintage drums I felt it was worth asking. Hey, you never know. While the shell is compromised I am left with the hardware for complete snare. So if I can determine where to start looking I'll try to find another home for the metal.

Posted on 11 years ago
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Looks to me to be a Pearl generic, with Fibes knock-off lugs. It's pretty much a donor at this point, unless you are REALLY good at woodworking. The shell appears to be crushed on one side. The lugs, however, would be a keen seller on the bay. Everything else....meh.

I am one of the handful that would even attempt the repair on that shell, and I'm not sure it would be worth it to you, unless you are looking to put it with another kit.

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Posted on 11 years ago
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Jonnistix - I had the same thought that it's a Pearl knock-off. The lugs are similar in design to those on some older Pearl snares and have the same 2" screw mount spacing. I hadn't noticed similarities to Fibes drums but I'll look into that. I realize the shell is shot. My thought was to transfer the hardware onto another shell and maybe come up with a decent cheap snare. I already placed a thread in the "wanted" forum with hopes that someone has an old Pearl shell lying around. Thanks for your thoughts. - Paul

Posted on 11 years ago
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I don't believe these snare lugs came into play until the very early 70s, when the battleship lugs were retired on the toms. Seems to me the switch-over would be at the same time for both the snare and tom lugs.

Please see my thread on the battleship lugs and help me solve it. There is a possibility that battleships were 60s all the way, but these came after them and were used on a whole slew of other badged drums for decades.

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Posted on 11 years ago
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Looks like the lugs from a kit I had, (still have remnants of) picked up in a bundle of drum gear - got a few good bits in the deal, but these drums weren't one of them. Don't know if they're the same, but these were badged, (poorly) as TCM. Obviously bottom of the barrel MIT. Peeled the wrap off these puppies, then just threw away the shells - big knot or something right on the batter bearing edge of the floor tom for example. Crap I tell you! Saved the lugs, but I don't even really like them, and as I recall. I don't even think the hardware quality was all that good. figured I'd hang onto them in case I needed a few, 'close to Pearls' for the bottom, rear of some drums in the future, or in case someone like Jonnistix thinks I might get a few bucks on ebay for em...

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Posted on 11 years ago
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John 333 - It was suggested by another poster that the snare might be from the '60s. The slingerland bass that came with it is circa 1970 and the third piece, a leedy tom is from 1960. There is no indication when this snare was made so it could well be after 1970. Could you post a picture of a battleship snare lug? I looked at your thread and there was only a pic of a tom. Thanks, Paul

Posted on 11 years ago
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Daddynowhere - Yeah, the shell is pretty poor but I don't think the hardware is as bad. I don't have an eye for this stuff but I believe the lugs are die-cast. As far as the value goes it's pretty minimal. There's a guy on ebay with a thousand of these lugs , selling them for $2 each. - Paul

Posted on 11 years ago
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Late jumping in here.. The drum appears to be an asian drum, possibly either late 60s Japan-made, or even early 70s Taiwan-made. Really it doesn't matter what stencil brand it is, although I bet a dime to a dozen it is a stencil brand of some type, like CB-700 or something like that.

Still, if you like the lugs and the quality of them, then totally useable as a project snare drum. You might check the threading of the lug inserts to be sure they're modern threading.. this would prevent any headaches in terms of finding suitable tension rods for it when you build the new drum.

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