Hi Dave!...

Well... as always, all we really have to go on are the examples that we have seen/owned, and like everything else!, there are going to be exceptions! Having said THAT...

There are THREE different styles of oval Dynasonic badges. I have owned ALL THREE at different times... and currently, I have TWO of the three on my four Dynasonics. I did have the 2nd type Dynasonic badge on a Red Sparkle Dynasonic, but I sold that drum to a collector out in CA. Anyway,

The badge on your BDP Dynasonic is the FIRST style of oval badge. Notice how it's more of a football shape than oval? As the years went by, the badge became more "rounded", with the 2nd type being the most round if you will. The most common badge is the third style that just about everybody has on their Dynasonic's today, kind of a cross between the two. So,

The reason I mentioned the shape being more common to the COB is that they were the first to have this badge while the wood models were still using the paper labels with Dynasonic typed in. The more common of the badges on the wood Dynasonics are the 2nd style, which as I mentioned is more rounded than football, but still oval of course. This doesn't mean that the first style badge wouldn't be on a wood Dynasonic... I'm sure they were! Just not as many. Is it possible that this badge was added to this drum with a damaged COB Dynasonic being the donor? Which brings us back here:

The badge on your drum is most certainly correct for that year Dynasonic... and the fact that the drum also has the label could be just one of those instances were things cross as the "new" is ushered in, and the "old" is escorted out. But...

The air vent grommet has certainly been tampered with on your drum, leading us to think that POSSIBLY that badge could have been installed after the fact... or ... perhaps the drum might even be a re-wrap... we really don't know. Or, it could be as it was originally made too... although there are an awful lot of marks around that grommet, which tells me that this badge was off this drum at some point for whatever reason. Still,

It is a nice example of an earlier wood Dynasonic, and we don't get to see all that many three ply Dynasonics anymore, although I'm sure they are out there!

Tommyp

The thing that gets me is that the grommet messiness is UNDER the laquer. Also, the two badge screws/washer/bolts appear to have the same weathering as the rest of the bolts. Making it appear to be more on the original side. Who knows??? This is a head scratcher... Either way, it sounds amazing.

No one else has a Dyna with a ugly inside grommet like mine????

Maybe late one night, a very stoned Joe Thompson experimented and put a badge on a wood Dyna-sonic... Making this the (very sloppy) first one!!!! Just kidding of course!!!

Thanks Tommyp,

We bought the drum recently represented as a “Rogers Wood Dyna-Sonic Snare Drum! BDP! RARE NOS!!” from an eBay seller. When viewing the images on the internet it closely resembled the champagne dyna-sonic (images below) which we also own. I have not seen the BDP Dyna as it is 1200 miles away with Isaac. My best “hope” is that when I see it I believe it to be a factory drop fill and a new old stock Dyna-Sonic snare drum. Maybe a blacklight test will yeild some answers. Of course the possibilities you describe would be disappointing. So I may be very disappointed. According to Isaac the drum sounds great and he has a great ear. Maybe we can bring the BDP Dyna-Sonic to the Chicago drum show for more opinions.

I have included some images of the Champagne Sparkle B-n-B Dyna-Sonic serial number 2567. It is built a bit later than the BDP Dyna-Sonic in question which has the serial number 2238. It has the same badge. Please feel free to give me your thoughts on this drum also. I am not quite as good at getting good images as Isaac. But if you need more and probably better images please just let me know I will do my best.

Thanks again for your input and thanks for any additional input that you can give us. It is appreciated. Dave

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What are you talking about dad??? Those are killer pictures!!! The badge screws on yours look just like mine.

Dave/IsaacHeath!

You guys KILL ME!!! That is really neat... father/son collectors/drummers! Anyway,

Yeah, NICE on the Pink Champagne Pearl Dynasonic... and being another three ply!, the badge/drum is early enough to have the same style badge as your BDP Dynasonic... PLUS! ... whereas the grommet on the PCP Dynasonic has the "split" ( and a lot of them did! ) there is no other evidence of messing around on the shell. That shell looks pretty pristine! Again, regarding your BDP Dynasonic:

Who knows for sure? It could be completely original!... and like your son said: Perhaps Joe Thompson WAS stoned that night! HA!!!! No disrespect intended or implied of course. Joe Thompson was THE MAN with regard to Rogers innovations! Anyway,

Your other Dynasonic in the picture, the Blue Strata Pearl wrapped one, has the more common badge, as this is the badge that follwed the first style badge which you have on BOTH your three ply Dynasonics. And this badge was follwed by the most common Dynasonic badge, which is the one on just about everybody's Dynasonic! Either way,

The BDP Dynasonic is certainly a bit of a mystery as it has both the paper label and the NEW oval Dynasonic badge. Were they both there from day one? Could certainly be! As to WHY the inside ply in the area of the air vent grommet/badge is slightly damaged... we may never know. The drum is sure to sound/look good though, and I would certainly consider it a tad rare for having BOTH styles of badges on the same drum!

Tommyp

PS: Dave, your pics are fine!!!

Much love and respect for Mr. Joe Thompson!!! Just a hilarious thought that popped into my head while pondering the odd combination/marks on this drum. Thanks Tommy.

That BDP is very close to the BDP (actually called "Charcoal" by Precision Drum)

that is on my rewrapped 16x16 Leedy tom shell.

Hi Tommyp

Thank you for your thoughtful answers. Yes Sir

Both Isaac and I love these Rogers Dyna-Sonic snare drums. I am in pursuit of another BDP Dyna with Beaver tails as we speak. It will be interesting to compare the two wraps. I know the BDP is more common color, and as much as I am trying to find the other colors, we do like this color well enough to have two of the same color, but differing shells and hardware.

In another collecting arena that I enjoy I have bought my share of mystery pieces over the last 35 years. Sometimes through a bit of detective work we find out some interesting and fun things that we would have never learned had it not been for the mystery pieces. Sometimes to our disappointment we find out someone played around with it, other times we find out that we got a bit were more than we bargained for. With this BDP Dyna we just don?t know yet. Like Isaac said,?It is a head scratcher.? I should get to see it and hold it in late April, early May. As I find anything new and pertinent about this BDP Dyna I can report back if you would like to know what I find. It may be a while.

Thanks Again for your kind words, input and insight. It is appreciated!Yes Sir

Dave

Hey Dyna Clan.

I need images of those badges!!!

So can I take the larger image from the BDP and can you take pictures of the other badges for me??

Thanks, I need them on the Rogers Badge page.

David