Exactly! And everyone knows and remembers these bands....who is ever gonna remember Linkin Park?? x-mas3

Widespread Panic....... still danceable

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now if you want to hear a todays guitar player that can play.. then this bud is for you! my good friend Jack Pearson with the Allman brothers band enjoy..

j.j's alley

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Absolutely...they played my house in Tucson in 94 (under one of the off-scene names to avoid the record company hacks' royalty requirements). We were living in a 3500 sq ft warehouse with offices that were perfect for individual rooms and on Thursdays we ran a huge party. Occasionally bands coming in to play would need rehearsal space and we offered on certain terms. They got paid to play, and we had the best parties in town...but then again, we were professionals at it. We had been throwing pro-level parties for 15 years at this point.

Also, since Jimmy did the Dead tour, his playing has made a marked change in that he has taken on a different sound. Actually, this change took place in around '02. He is one of my favorite guitar players today and yet these guys are my age and a little older...love a little Panic in the cool evening of the fall, my favorite time to see them.

Yep, it's a groovy show...

Too bad Houser passed on from pancreatic cancer in 2002... he was special on guitar... never really heard anyone like him.

But Herring is a true force as well, been around since '06... a North Carolina native !!

My Ginger Baker story: I was playing a solo keyboard gig at the Waikiki Yacht Club and on break a musician in the next room comes up to me and says there's "some famous drummer here". I look outside and sure enough it's Ginger Baker.

We go outside towards him and when we get a few feet away the other musician says to Ginger "my friend says you used to be a famous rock drummer".

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Ginger pulls his pipe out of his mouth and says "your friend is full of sh*t".

Thus ended my chance meeting with one of my childhood heros.

And Van Halen hasn't done anything since the 1984 album

Van Halen was awesome with the Tequila king, Sammy Hagar and I will argue that their music improved with his sound.

Record sales today mean nothing like in the old days. When big chains like Wal-mart buy in such bulk it kind of pads the numbers. Its not the same thing today like it was in the 1960's and 1970's. BTW, when the Beatles (and yes there is only one T in the name!) came out with the Anthology series, they outsold EVERYBODY. When the came out with 1, it outsold everybody. When they came out with Love, they outs......well you get the idea. Lets see Linkin Park do that.

Where did people buy records when the Beatles were playing their Partridge Family music then? I understand that Wal Mart wasn't around but there had to be some type of shop that bought bulk records then sold them to the general public, right? There is no difference between the two generations as far as buying music except for that people today steal from the musicians by downloading music for free and those numbers never get figured into that band's stats.

I am usually running for the head to hurl when I hear the Beatles so I have no visual reference for their name, hence the misspelling. I also did not want to chance looking it up and have some web site sneak in a few seconds of thier ridiculous music on me before I could get to the close button.

Any musician worth his salt here would NEVER bash the Beatles OR any other band that was a big influence that came before because they GET music and where it came from and now where its going. Drumhack, you are just reinforcing the fact to the rest of us that, like drums, you know nothing about real music, nor do you care to.

I am not a musician. I like music and like to bang on the drums a little. I have no illusions of ever doing more than that. I get music, I just don't feel that I owe everything remotely considered a musical influece my unquestioned patronage. Influential or not, their product is being judged by the consumer, me, and I give it two thumbs down and a big finger. What is this anyways? Is this the "I know more about music and drums than you do, nah nah nah nah nah" statement? Cmon. We have moved past this teeter totter banter, haven't we? Music is art and is totally a matter of taste for the consumer. I don't like the Beatles. I think their music is bland, kidsy and basically soulless. It is like the music at the circus when they bring in the clowns to me. I do like alot of the other music named in this thread. The total package of the bowl cut hair-dos', the tambourine as one of the lead instruments, and everything else corny that was the Beatles just has me looking elsewhere for my trips down memory lane.

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Obviously you never listened to the White Album, Let it Be or Abbey Road.......far from bland, kidsy and soul-less.....

And no this is not an "I know more than you neener neener neener" thread.....its a reply to how cluless some of you guys are out there and CLOSE MINDED you can be. I'm open minded to new music, I listen to it....but I know crap when I hear it. The Beatles were not crap. The Monkees, sure....because they were made up for a TV show, not even a real band! Linkin Park, Sevendust, Godsmack, Creed, Nickelback, Buckcherry...the list goes on and on.....all cookie cutter record company crap for the masses that needs to go away. How much dirge in the "key of satan" with gravelly or just plain cookie monster style vocals do they need to throw in our faces? It all sounds the same, like crap. It happened with the grunge scene of the 90's, a couple of innovators, then in comes the record companies and everybody is sounding the same again.....same with the 80's......Van Halen comes out in 78 and then EVERYBODY is sounding and trying to play like Eddie by the late 80's....makeup, spandex, aquanet pink and all!

At least the Beatles were originators to a degree...what did Linkin Park, etc originate? Nada!

My main point to all this was this: why bash one of the greatest drummers that has ever lived (Ginger Baker) just because YOU don't like the music (or understand it or where it comes from)??

Sometimes people that have no clue and just follow what's shoved down their throat by the record comapnies should just stay silent.

Lol. Nothing has changed in the music industry. Somebody had to be pushing the Beatles way back then too. I mean it isn't like they got all their fan base from MTV, VH1 and people surfing the internet, right? No. They had promoters just like the bands do today, using the mass media of the time to push those soup bowl haircut wearing nerds to the top. The only difference is that people can download all the music they want for free with no records kept, keeping the Beatles as the best selling band forever, by default. There should be an asterisk there IMO. You do know that AC/DC has sold a few records right? And that they have cut records in the internet age right? I offer that their numbers are lower than the number of people who actually have their music too. No doubt about it. Their last album, Black Ice, probably had less than half of it's "customers" actually pay for the damned CD giving them their props for the work they put in.

Also, I didn't even know who Ginger Parker was til this thread. Honestly. I thought you were talking about Mary Ann's counterpart on the island. I never dissed Ginger Parker. I said the Beatles suck and their music is like torture to my ears. Cue the fingernails on the chalkboard. "She loves you yeah, yeah yeah, she loves you yeah yeah yeah." What pure poetry. I mean did Robert Frost get a credit for helping them put together those magical lyrics? Was that song the culmination of a third grade write the lyrics for the Beatles contest? Those pulitzer worthy lyrics, some killer tambourine bangin', a soup bowl haircut and a Bruce Lee karate jacket and you have the best selling band of all time. I am going to go regurgitate supper now. Jeesh.

toodles

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