Pair 6: 20" Old K Istanbul

While these aren't Constantinople's, they are vintage and K's and cool, so I thought I'd include them here. They used to belong to William Schneiderman, who played in the Pittsburgh Symphony from 1943-82. As you would think, they sound somewhere between the Constantinople K's and modern Zildjians. They're loud and rich, nicely played in, and even though they're brighter than some of the older plates, they are still super rich and complex.

I think each plate is around 2,800g, but I'll have to check again.

[img]https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5641/22194650582_f3d95c8121_k.jpg[/img]20K by michael Culligan, on Flickr

[img]https://farm1.staticflickr.com/594/22181272836_47d26458c2_k.jpg[/img]20Kstamp by michael Culligan, on Flickr

Incredible collection, thanks for sharing! That last photo shows an Intermediate Stamp.

I've got one and my neighbor 2 houses away has one, weird if I say so myself :)

We both scored them SUPER lucky and dirt cheap too.

I consider myself extremely fortunate to have one 20'' old K...

So great to see these in the right hands and being put to such good use. If they ever find their way into a recording with the symphony, let us know - I'd love to hear them in context!

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The Goldman band was known for using and endorsing Turkish K. Zildjian cymbals. In fact the K. Zildjian company specifically referred to this fact in one of their small brochures. I used to have one of these and I would love to show it to you here but unfortunately I lost track of it.

And his name was.....(drum roll please)...

[color=black][font=times new roman][size=+1] Edwin Franko Goldman[/size][/font][/color]

And as for the Indiana connection...

"Goldman was born January 1, 1878, in Louisville, Kentucky, the son of David Henry and Selma Franko Goldman. The family moved to Evansville, Indiana in 1879 and, finally, to Terre Haute, Indiana...." (source Wikipedia]

And as was mentioned in the original Ebay auction, these were formerly owned by an orchestra conductor.

So I believe that I can now say with metaphysical certitude that this would would be the answer to your question concerning the source for the initials "E.F.G."on your Constantinople K.

[color=black][font=times new roman][size=+1]Q.E.D[/size][/font][/color]

Amazing!!!!!! Awesome detective work, Drumaholic. That makes total sense. Wow, I thought it was going to go unsolved forever. There you have it!

I've been using them a ton out here, and everybody loves them. What an awesome color to have. I'll get a sound file one of these days...

A better untouched pristine example would be impossibly hard to find:

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Bill, sorry I'm so late to responding to your amazing discovery here. The fact that you were able to track this down and find the identity of the percussionist E.F.G. who once owned these piatti is pretty amazing to me.

Excellent work.

Glad they're now with "packers" in Cincinnati. Congrats.

Sinclair

It is always so happy to know that someone also loves research the history of cymbals and history of K zildjian.

I also have 2 seperate cymbals bearing engraving of JLD and PFK. Both 16inch and came from different source.

Hey, do you know Bill Platt? I sold him a late 50's K Zildjian 16" a couple years ago