any shell interior pics,yet? -----both would be good.----- I'm curious about this kit.-----still think it is Lindberg. The shells would be the defining clue.

Sorry that it took a while, but here are the interior pics of the bassdrum:

[IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a205/RThomassen/oogmams005.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a205/RThomassen/oogmams004.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a205/RThomassen/oogmams002.jpg[/IMG]

Fascinating thread, fascinating pictures!

thanks,

Patrick

Well. That is a TROMSA shell, TROMSA screws and washers,TROMSA spurs,TROMSA interior fastening style for the tom mount and the lugs ; I have seen on both TROMSA and Lindberg drums.Deri lugs were similar but different. The little mount for the cymbal post , is not a TROMSA mount and the spur mounts are not TROMSA,either. While the tom mount is fitted the same as TROMSA and appears to receive a TROMSA 20mm tom arm it looks more like a mount from a Deri drum as do the spur mounts.

So, I think that my original theory may be true. ----Lindberg drums were TROMSA/Deri hybrids but probably made in the TROMSA factory. I can just barely see the serial# on the shell patch(this is a big telling point)--Tromsa shells were rolled green(not steam bent), butt joined and then patched. That serial# written in pencil,on or alongside the patch, was a standard practice at TROMSA. Sometimes there are clues in the serial# as to the eventual destination of the shell or the year of mfg. but I haven't deciphered these all yet and in this case, I can't read it(could you tell us what it says?)

Here is a possible explanation for the assemblage of the parts from two drum factories in the production out of one of them. Sometime late in the 50's, one of the partners in Deri(Mr. Rimmel, I believe) won a lottery of some kind and used the money to build a state of the art foundry. Perhaps ,prior to that, Deri, did not have a foundry and so , contracted the metal parts mfg.for their drums out to perhaps, TROMSA, who did have a foundry. So, the Deri molds and parts were close at hand to TROMSA and Lindberg Music chose much Tromsa for their drums but also bought some from Deri, in order to make them unique. All TROMSA needed to do was assemble the drums to order.

If knowledge of German made drums is what you're seeking, then more and more, I am becoming a huge fan of Phil. This gentleman backs up what he says with solid research and keen understanding of the instument in question!

Brian

I 'm glad that you fully confirmed my assumptions. Phil.

As always, your explanations of nuances are great!

George.

Here's the snare to fill in the gap. The wrap is known as lametta ( tinsel).

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Vintage-Snare-/190756117771?pt=Drums_Percussion&hash=item2c69f35d0b

Holy sh*t,...!!

The brand on this drum is "Artist". This was one of the brands in Germany, that Tromsa was contracted to produce as a stencil brand. I have no idea , who these were for but in my Tromsa collection, I have 3 drums so badged, with each badge being different. The lug style , dates from the 50's. Both Lindberg Music and Tromsa , themselves used these lugs as well.

Thanks A LOT, Phil! I already did bid!