Naw...

The "Lightning" throw had the tension knob on the butt side

This was standard on any 4160 or "Professional" model.

The "Micro-Sensitive" was a knock on the Slingerland "Zoomatic"

and everything else was a "Positive" or "Renown".

And a knock on the Ludwig P-83.

Fred had an equal flair to Bud for derivative glory.

Replace that dawg...

;)

I forgot to mention that this is a 4105 model drum. Thanks again!

The 4105 is the "Dixieland" model.

A round badge generally indicates late '50's.

I have one too. The only Gretsch in my fleet,

( referred to in other posts ) it is a favorite.

Thin 6-ply maple shell, die-cast hoops and a bare

minimum of hardware, I call her "Little Big Bang".

Cool.

That drum needs the reknown (4 pt.) throw off...the butt side is the 4 screw adjustable butt.

Thanks for all the help guys.

I am still a bit confused though. So this drum is the "Dixieland" model, but is the renown strainer I have pictured (the one NOT mounted on the drum) the correct part for this drum? The lower part of it looks a bit different them the one that is currently on the drum, where the snare would attach. Also, here's a picture of the butt plate. It's the original, and is definitely not the adjustable butt. The last post threw me off a bit..

[COLOR=black]Yes, the thing about most of these companies is that their catalogs are filled with inaccurate information.[/COLOR]

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[COLOR=black]I looked at all of the 50's catalogs I have and all of them show the "Dixieland" with single flange hoops and clips. Not until the early 60's did they show it with die cast hoops.[/COLOR]

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[COLOR=black]This could just be they did not want to take the time to update the photos from catalog to catalog.[/COLOR]

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[COLOR=black]Here is a Dixieland that I did a photo shoot with. [COLOR=#800080]Click Here[/COLOR][/COLOR]

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[COLOR=black]Take a look at that strainer, that drum was all original [/COLOR]

[COLOR=black]and I cleaned it up it for someone and then took the pictures for the web site.[/COLOR]

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[COLOR=black]I do not remember how the strainer goes together, but you should probably try and take the parts from the new strainer and use them on the original and keep the drum as original as possible.[/COLOR]

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[COLOR=black]I hate to sacrifice a good strainer, but it is to make the drum the way it should be[/COLOR][COLOR=black] [/COLOR]

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[COLOR=black]David[/COLOR]

Thanks for your information, David.

It looks like the Renown strainer I purchased to replace the one currently on my drum matches up to the one in your pictures. Do you think I should go ahead and put that on the drum, or should I try and complete the strainer that is currently lever-less on the drum?

Ah, just re-read your post again. I think I understand what you're saying. Could the strainer on the drum be a slightly altered model of the Renown that they started using in the 60's when they started using the die cast hoops?

I have to assume that the one on your drum is original. So I would use the new strainer and just hold on to the old one.

If you ever sell the drum include that and the original strainer part so the new owner has it.

David

So, I took the old part off in preparation to put on the new strainer. Looking at the back/inside of the part, it become clear that this part isn't missing anything at all. What I have here is a complete 4 point adjustable butt end.

The question is, why was this mounted in-place of the appropriate renown strainer, and was it done by Gretsch? Was the drum meant to have this adjustable butt end on one side and a regular butt end on the other?