It's a Rocker set all right and probably a fairly early one since it's using the standard Ludwig double tom post. Rockers didn't even come out until around 1980 so early 70's misses the mark by about a decade. The early ones are pretty decent drums using a four ply shell that was probably the exact same maple/poplar layup as the Ludwig Super Classic sets offered at that time (the standard top of the line set was the Classic with a six ply shell but you could order the four ply Super Classics if you preferred a thinner shell). I recently bought a set of these in that same color for a friend's daughter. They were a later version with Pearl style elbow arms supporting the toms. They sounded great, even with crappy old heads on them. I almost kept them but I don't need any more drums. So you might be surprised although the power sized toms are out of fashion...although if you turn them into floor toms they are dandy for a mini fusion kit with a 10" up top.

Cymbals, hard to say, depends on what they are and how they sound. They could be great or they could be manhole covers, hard to say about Zildjians (as they look to be) from the same era as these drums. Of course they could be older or newer. IF they are all cast Zildjians (or some other of equivalent reputation like Sabian or Paiste) they could well be worth the price of admission or at least a good chunk thereof. Might be worth a personal look see/listen.

Good points - thanks. Converting to floor toms - that's a GREAT idea! In terms of tom sizes and probably kick size (no sizes listed) it's almost exactly the opposite of what I'm looking for personally, but with some conversion work, maybe.

That right side Zildjian is definitely 80s solid logo. I could swear that hi hat looks earlier. My old pair of solid logo 80s New Beats - I beat those things senseless and couldn't get those logos to fade much. So my guess is maybe 1980 ish hollow logos.

Really it's the cymbals that interest me. The possibility of dropping $400 (or less if he takes an offer), cleaning up the shells to flip and ending up with some nice Zildjian As for like $50 or even $0...OR, the mini fusion kit idea is intriguing. Anyway I just needed to see if my super fast research was right: Rockers and thus, not early 70s.

I'll start with emailing for some more pics and info - I mean, come on. (Craigslist, man).

I really appreciate you sharing your knowledge with me on this. THANKS!

It never ceases to amaze me that people can't take better photos of drums when they're trying to sell them. You'd think he could take the towel, or shirt, or whatever it is, off the snare drum, and put the drums in a better setting that looks attractive to a potential buyer. Offer him less than $400 if you want the cymbals.

Agreed.

I hate to give lazy sellers there asking price, and for sure, this is a lazy seller! His lack of effort will probably keep interest low.

But if you really don't want the drums, maybe he'll sell the cymbals separately. Wouldn't hurt to ask...

Any way welcome welcome

Thanks guys.

Indeed, it sure would be nice to get a peak at that snare - without driving an hour and a half.

I got stymied by financial reality, but maybe in a few weeks. I get the feeling you're right that interest will be low. Everything moves SLOWLY down here it seems, especially musical gear, and especially poorly presented musical gear. I might be able to low-ball on just cymbals. Or maybe contact him, drive out and lowball on the whole thing. I don't think I'd pay full price at any rate, and once he's sees those 2 crisp hondos...

I paid $100 for the set I bought, but no cymbals were included and just a couple of stands. If they had had that traditional Ludwig tom mount setup like this set does I might have kept them but our friend's daughter had her initial cheap Sound Percussion drum set destroyed by a hurricane (her dad was stationed near Panama City, Florida) so they went to her as a replacement/upgrade. They sure sounded good though.

Probably $300 in cymbals there so anything south of that is a great deal.

Yep ,What KO said and who knows what's under the blanket.

Wayne

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