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Drum Companies and Their Worst Ideas

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In fairness to Ludwig the rivetted seam wasn't really an idea someone came up with as something "new and improved" but rather an unfortunate attempt to fix the vexing problem of the new drum wrap they were using shrinking and pulling apart at the seam. They were kind of grabbing at straws trying to fix it. Bill Ludwig Jr. thought about civil war era drums that had tacks on them and his engineering staff "refined" that idea into rivets. They did their best to hide them in the promo materials so I suspect they knew it was a bad idea from the get go.

Gretsch made the mistake of continuing to use outdated stands and hardware well past when all the other companies had followed Rogers lead and dropped the standard W & A designs and come up with their own unique hardware which grew increasingly robust...except for Gretsch who kept using the antiquated W & A designs until the early 80's.

More recently Ludwig brought back the flat back Imperial (their high end lug design) and then put them on drums they called "Club Dates" with all the "low cost" baggage that name carries (not that they were bad drums). It's like if Ford had brought out their re-issue GT-40 cars of 10 or so years ago and introduced them as the new Ford Taurus. Ludwig could have built the very same center lug drums but just made up a new name "Imperial Clubs", "Imperial Classics", whatever.

Some of the products mentioned above were just plain dumb but a lot of them are just matters of taste, for every drummer that thinks it was a dumb idea there's another one who loved that holder/stand/shell/head/snare/etc. etc.

Posted on 6 years ago
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From DrumBob

Peavey's drums that looked like empty spools.

As funny as they looked, those original Peavey drums sounded great...

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Posted on 6 years ago
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Gretsch and its #4925 Monster Double Tom Holder. Ugly, bulky, awkward and weird.

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Posted on 6 years ago
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The new Akira Jimbo 35th Anniv Signature snare... the rope?! Come on... [ame]https://youtu.be/H5w_NC064V8[/ame]

The fact Yamaha cut all their finishes down to like 12 for their Absolute line several years ago

The limited range of finish options on all Yamaha series of drums

Totally agree about the modular mounting system on those Ludwigs, bulky and ugly af

And the riveted seams! Gross.

Ludwig's QC in the late 80's... I scored a 10x8 tom on ebay to re-wrap which ended up being a 10x8.7" depth shell :/

Posted on 6 years ago
#24
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I am not comfortable with purple.... are other colour ropes available? and is there sufficient length of rope supplied to enable some nautical knots... Eg... a wetter sound... ? sorry but WTF??

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'77 Slingerland 51N,Super Rock 24,18,14,13.. COW 8,10 Concert toms
'69 Slingerland Hollywood Ace
'75 Rogers Dynasonic 6.5 x 14, 10 lug COB
'77-78 Slingerland 6.5 x 14, 10 lug COB
'78-79 Slingerland 5 1/4 x14 8 lug COB
'79 Biman 5 1/4, Acrolite
'82 Slingerland 5 1/4 x 14. Festival COS
'84 Tama MasterCraft Superstar 6.5 x 14, 10 lug Rosewood
'98 Slingerland (Music YO) 6" 10 Lug Maple.. NOS
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Posted on 6 years ago
#25
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Some drums that are super-collectible now (Trixon Telstar and Speedfire for example) are collectible simply because they came from a time when there were a lot of experimental ideas that were as much visual art as they were musical instruments -even though some of the ideas never really made great sound(subjective) -they looked cool(subjective).

I used to lust over the Ludwig Octa-Plus kits of the 70's when I was a kid. I must have run that string of melodic tom toms in my mind a million times! Now, you can't give those things away!

Premier Resonators were pretty crazy, too, btw.

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Posted on 6 years ago
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I think the rope is a great idea, just think of all the possibilities. Suppose your belt breaks, you have something to hold your pants up, your kitty has a new toy, you can tie it around your head to keep the sweat away from your eyeballs and my personal favorite, cut it in small pieces and tie them to your fingers so you don't forget that new song that's in an odd time signature.

Posted on 6 years ago
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Surprised nobody has mentioned North drums yet.

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Posted on 6 years ago
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Oh Ludwigdude already blasted North drums back on page 1...I would offer this to the haters... North drums are certainly impractical, and not a good replacement for a traditional kit in most situations, but let’s say you wanted to do a live version of a Dr. Seuss musical, or you need a visual to explain what it would look like if a tuba mated with a drum set, or if you get a gig at an acoustic death metal festival deep in the woods where there is no power...for these and many other situations, North is the clear choice.

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Vintage Drums:
1970ish Ludwig Standard Avocado Strata downbeat
1970ish Star Acrylic 22,12,13,16
1950’s Gretsch tympani 26.5
19?? Sonor roto-tympani 13x12
70’s Ludwig Standard alum 14x5 snare
90’s Arbiter Adv. Tuning 12x5 snare
90’s Ludwig blackrolite 14x5 snare

Modern Drums:
Erie Drums 1-ply sycamore shell kit 18,10,13
Erie 1-ply maple 14x5 snare
Tama S.L.P. Acrylic 14x6.5 snare
Posted on 6 years ago
#29
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Maybe you should had been on their marketing team.Clapping Happy2

Posted on 6 years ago
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