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Advice on how to Refresh Slingerland Copper Wrap

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From Superfly

Yes, they are mine. That picture is from Internet, "BUY AND SELL". But as you can see at the second, closer pictures, there is much more scratch, rust and pitting then you can see on that first picture.[IMG]http://www.freewebs.com/groovesuperfly/DSC00113.JPG[/IMG]Brown Tripoli???Any one know what it´s made of ??? And whats it´s made for? I am not so sure that any one will know what i am meaning,if I ask for it here in Sweden... they may think thats opium or something like that, I am looking for Eye Ball... It will be easier if I can explain more what it made of, and for.

As bad as that drum looks, it's merely surface scratches that can be buffed out and a clear coat put back on to protect it and shine it up.

I'd say it's worth doing because of it's rarity, or just sell it and buy what you like and let someone ELSE go through the hassle redoing them.

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Posted on 15 years ago
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Vipercussionist is 100% correct.. sell them to somebody who wants to do the work. They are rare enough (and just very cool to) that you shouldn't take them apart.

I'm thinking just go to the autoparts store and get some metal polish that would be used on aluminum wheels. Use the bottomside of the bass drum to experiment a little and do some rubbing on them.

Try the local Mekonomen AB or the Micro AB just tell them what you are working on... they will find the right polish.

Best of luck whatever you decide.

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Posted on 15 years ago
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Ok, ok, I will NOT recover them.DOH

But, as they are looking now, something MUST be done. And I thought that it was impossible to rescue copper finish. But if you said that´s not impossible, of course I will do it. And I agree, that all drums are definitly more charming as original. And it´s not so easy, or cheap to recover a drum eider.

And I did realy knew that those Slingerlad is SO RARE..?

As I understaind, the copper finish ( and steel finish) was a pretty usualy, and not popular eihder. But as it was said here before, if Slingerland made those Copper set, Concorde for max 2 years, then I could not see so many of those?!?

But ok, I will go to Mekonomen AB and Micro AB (????) ask for some soft metall polish, and try to do my best. As you said, I will start try under the bas drum, if I made some mistake.

I tried to polish them with ordinary car polish, but nothing happend:(

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Slingerland-GoldSatinFlame-1972/73
Camco LA-Ebony Stain-73/78?
Premier "Pre" Elite-Turquis Oyster-1969
Trixon Luxus-Red Ripple-1961
Sneres - Ludwig, Slingerland, GeoWay and so on...
Cymbals- Most K-Zildjian & Paiste 2002
(and some Pearl, Tama and so long, long time ago...)

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Posted on 15 years ago
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From CarstenM

Hi Superfly.Congratulations with your rare Slingerland copper on maple - drums. The series was called Concorde, and was produced only in ´72 - ´73.

I was looking in catalog from 1976 , on http://drumarchive.com/Slingerland/ and there is Slingerland Conocorde ???

So only tat concorde was made only between ´72-´73 can not be right???

But serial numbers on mine drums said that they have to be made ´72 or early ´73.

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Antonio Drums-Elmwood- True Solid Shell-Hollow Log
Ludwig-Psychedelic Red-69
Slingerland-GoldSatinFlame-1972/73
Camco LA-Ebony Stain-73/78?
Premier "Pre" Elite-Turquis Oyster-1969
Trixon Luxus-Red Ripple-1961
Sneres - Ludwig, Slingerland, GeoWay and so on...
Cymbals- Most K-Zildjian & Paiste 2002
(and some Pearl, Tama and so long, long time ago...)

http://groovesuperfly.webs.com/
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Posted on 15 years ago
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The serial numbers would be the best way to date the Copper kit. I'm thinking they made more Concorde kits in other years, but not in the Copper wrap. The Copper seems to have been limited to 1972 - 73.

It's a rare kit and well worth the extraordinary effort it will take to rehab it.

Make sure to document your progress and take plenty of pictures in your rehab, I'm sure MANY drummers across the world would love to see the process it takes to get it back.

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Posted on 15 years ago
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Hi guys.

Much to my surprise the Concorde 11N monster-kit shows up in the 1976 Catalouqe - as Superfly tells.

I was told by several experts that the production of the Copper-Kits was stopped some time in 1973, appearrently due to problems with the sound, aswell as with the durability of the finish.

Maybe - just maybe - the Kit shown in the ´76 Catalouqe was made in´73, but still in stock because of it´s "unpopularity"??? At least the 11N Kit - and the picture of it - is 100% identical to the one shown in ´73..

I´m very happy that you Superfly has "surrendered", and given up - at least for now - rewrapping this completely innocent kit, because if not, I would have to come and rescue it.

Now let´s just see what a little Brown Tripoli (and a lot of hard work) can do.

- Strip the drums completely.

- Choose a solid table with a good working-hight and light.

- Place some old towels on top on it, and fasten them with Gaffa-tape.

- Bring up the Bassdrum, and start - as Jim suggests - on the bottomside. and see how it behaves.

- When you need a brake from the copper-pollishing, you could start workin on the crome-parts, wich is not so hard work (but takes even longer time)

By the way: what was it you payed for this kit - a 100 something?

Best of luck

Carsten M

Posted on 15 years ago
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I do not know so much about Slingerlan, particulary not about Concorde... So I am wrong person to tell if Slingerland made those sets only between 72-73, bur if there is several experts says that they were made only those two years, it makes me very confused why we can see it in 1976 catalog!?!

May be 1976 Concorde was plastic copper wrap, and not really metal as back in 72-73?

And yes, I will try to polish up them, but not at the moment, I do have a lot of others project, on my work, at home, with kids, and drums.

And chrome is not a big deal to polish, I recently did it on my Ludwig, yes it´s take some time, but I can at least sit in my sofa and watch tv at the same time. And I do not think it´s same with that 24" bas drum....

Make sure to document your progress and take plenty of pictures in your rehab, I'm sure MANY drummers across the world would love to see the process it takes to get it back.

Yes I will take pictures, but I am not leaving any guarantee that result will be anything to show up. :confused:

But I promise, I will do my best!

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Antonio Drums-Elmwood- True Solid Shell-Hollow Log
Ludwig-Psychedelic Red-69
Slingerland-GoldSatinFlame-1972/73
Camco LA-Ebony Stain-73/78?
Premier "Pre" Elite-Turquis Oyster-1969
Trixon Luxus-Red Ripple-1961
Sneres - Ludwig, Slingerland, GeoWay and so on...
Cymbals- Most K-Zildjian & Paiste 2002
(and some Pearl, Tama and so long, long time ago...)

http://groovesuperfly.webs.com/
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Posted on 15 years ago
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And let us change titel, from "Advice about how to rewrap Slingerlan Copper"

to: " Advice how to refresh a Slingerland Copper" :)

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Antonio Drums-Elmwood- True Solid Shell-Hollow Log
Ludwig-Psychedelic Red-69
Slingerland-GoldSatinFlame-1972/73
Camco LA-Ebony Stain-73/78?
Premier "Pre" Elite-Turquis Oyster-1969
Trixon Luxus-Red Ripple-1961
Sneres - Ludwig, Slingerland, GeoWay and so on...
Cymbals- Most K-Zildjian & Paiste 2002
(and some Pearl, Tama and so long, long time ago...)

http://groovesuperfly.webs.com/
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Posted on 15 years ago
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"And I do not think it´s same with that 24" bas drum...."

It definately wasn´t with a 26".

Good luck.

Carsten M

Posted on 15 years ago
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[COLOR="Navy"]Just now saw this thread. Folks, Slingerland's 1970's Copper finish is a steel wrap. The copper is only a very thin outer plated veneer, that was then clear coated to try to avoid metal oxidation. I'm afraid this finish just cannot be buffed - even the slightest abrasion will immediately start removing the thin outer copper plate, with the gray steel quickly showing. I wish it were not so, but I cannot tell you how many folks I personally know who have suffered by buffing, thinking this finish was copper sheet. Slingerland's Copper can be cleaned to look much better, but not polished. A nice gentle non-abrasive lacquer cleaner, or something similar, is about all one really can do.

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Posted on 15 years ago
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