The toms look to have stamped hoops to my eye. Also, the consolette rail resembles those made by Star, although I have already disqualified myself as an expert.

Fayray, is the BD hoop plastic or wood? I'm wondering because I have a 20" plastic BD hoop that looks identical, but I have no idea who made it.

I believe this is a Pearl. Those lugs look more Pearl like than any of the Star. They have that ridge, and are probaly light wieght. The rail is more Pearl like as well, I hate to say it, but this screams "not Star". It may tune up very nice if you lightly sand the edges to get the grain closed up. A nice, really smooth surface on that lauan makes it much easier to tune as there is much less friction while pulling the heads over. Are they round over edges? That would indicate a more 60s kit, while the sharper they get, the later they become. And if that fade is really even, you have a cool color going on, even if it is pinkish. Nice find. You get those cleaned, polished, new heads and tuned nicely and you'll turn some pennies. Not enough to warrant new heads, but a good set of say used, or the Attack 5 pack is a smoking deal! In the States, right now Ameriacan Music Supply (and someone else, Sam Ash maybe?) is selling them for 30+shipping. So for 40 bucks you get new 12, 13, 16, 22 and 14 snare heads. They also have a fusion set, and a 4 pack for $18, it is minus the bass head. And Cascio sent me a spamail the other day. I bought a new 20" Remo for 13 + shipping, 7, 20 bucks for a new bass head for my son's bass. It is a heavy, but for 20 you can't go wrong when you're sporting 45 year old skin.

Definitely, Premier rims on the snare!

-kellyj

Good eye Ralf! You're right, the fade around the bass drum air vent is clearly rectangular. Also, take a look at the floor tom leg mounts. Those are different from anything Star or Pearl, right? And the flat tab tom mount bracket on the rack tom is a diamond shape, not like (at least) the early Star brackets, correct?

Finally the lugs. We've seen these before, but we haven't really discussed them. They are too wide to be tear drops, but they are not at all like the Sling style, so what are they? Take a look at O-bop's Hoshino set:

http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=10675&page=3

I think those look like a pretty close match, and also, it's a 6 lug bass drum. I think that this could be a Hoshino set.

Something else I saw made me think Yamaha for a second, but now I cant remember what it was...

Thanx cn679.

... And the flat tab tom mount bracket on the rack tom is a diamond shape, not like (at least) the early Star brackets, correct? ...

Yes.

The fade around the bass drum air vent made me think of the logo in my attachment ...

Two pro's for Hoshino!

Ralf

Thanks for all your help people. The Hoshino theory seems like a good one to me if only because I've seen them come up for sale a few times here which would indicate that they were sold new here.

Stallwart - yes the BBD hoop is plastic although there is only one. i've got a pair of metal ones that will do as replacements.

Mikey777 - It came with all the T-rods - I won't even try to explain how they used them to keep the reso head on without a hoop. Needless to say, it wasn't pretty. I will, however, need some bracket things that hold the BD spurs (see pic) and the missing part for the Speed King pedal if you can help.

The snare is in very poor shape unfortunately. I'm not sure that it's brass but the rims are very solid and heavy. They are warped and the shell needs the services of a panel beater more than a drum restorer

Here are some more pics:

Was Hoshino not the parent company of the Star brand? Keep in mind, Japanese brands are in many cases simply trading companies. That is, they may design, promote and sell a product, but farm the actual production out to manufacturing firms. Hoshino might have used one of Pearl's mfg. facilities, or vice versa.

This explains how competitors, Ibanez and Fender, had guitars that were produced at the same Fuji Gakki plant in Japan (info from a Hoshino sales rep.).

It might be that various components were also shared on models based upon price and availability.

An example of this in the US during the 90's is that Honda Passports were assembled at a plant in Indiana on parallel assembly lines with Jeep Grand Cherokee models.

Whatever it is it will serve you well as a secondary or rehearsal kit.Rims for the toms would cost what you paid for it,and that snare drum looks powerful!..great dealJump For Joy

Yes i have the bass drum leg mounts just like the ones you posted on the bass drum they are new old stock,,the ludwig speed king pedal parts also,looks by the photo you need the piece that goes to the foot pedal,also the wing nut that goes on the part that holds the pedal to the bass drum,i have both things...P.M. me if you like Mikey

'... Was Hoshino not the parent company of the Star brand? ...'

Yes - and no:

Hoshino Gakki = Star = Tama now ('yes').

Hoshino Kougyou (the badge we are talking about here in this thread) = a total separate drum company, which is existing no longer ('no').

FYI - if you like, read this thread (do it complete, there are, besides Hoshino, a lot more details given there): http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=9404

@ Fayray: I'm eager to learn how you solve the prob with the broken snare drum lug ...

Ralf