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this is my take ,if i had to sell my kit which is a sweet downbeat set from middle 60's in silver sparkle with canister $400.00 i bought the kit in separate lots the base and hang for $350.00 the downbeat snare for $450.) the ft $400.00 so add cleaning new skins and wires etc,what do i need to get to break even + shipping....so every sale is not as easy as it seems so i would have to ask (the dates are all within reason except for canister)

$1750.00 so to me i could not dicker at that price but if i asked $2,500.00 i could be a little flexible so i think its all irrelevant what a person is asking for a drum /drums it is what the buyer wants to or can afford to pay and thats the way it is and that's the way it should be so there's my 2cents

April 2nd 1969 scarfed pink champagne holly wood and 65/66 downbeat snare, and , supra same year very minty kit old pies
66/67 downbeat with canister
Super 400 small round knob
1967 super classic obp





once the brass ceases to glitter, and the drum looses its luster, and the stage remains dark, all you have left is the timbre of family.
Posted on 13 years ago
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JR - I have earned a supplemental income from drum sales for many years. The drum market, like any other, is cyclical in nature. As we speak, prices on vintage drum kits are going back to where they should be. My last several sales have been at fair market value and I didn't have to 'compromise' on price.

It's all about 'what' you're selling. Certain items will hold their value even through rough markets. My point is; you can't generalize like that. The market may be depressed for low end stuff, but quality always holds value.

The cycle is slowly turning upward from what I can see. Buy carefully, sell at fair prices and you'll do ok. Things are improving in the drum market from all indications. Refer to recent prices on ebay.

BTW - ALL of our current economic problems are -inherited.- You know... little things like; three unpaid wars, Prescription drug deals with Big Pharmaceutical companies all unpaid for... they trashed a huge surplus that was left to them and then left it all for the next guy to clean up.

It is the very same people who created this mess to begin with, who are now blocking any attempts to correct it. Blatantly standing in the way. And why? Because they want to win next time at all costs. Even if they have to trash the country and the economy to do it. Not "patriotic" at all. Yet they're the ones who wear little flag pins on their lapels as if they cared about country first. For them, it's party first, and our country 'maybe' a close third to Big Oil and the Koch bros. $. Patriots my a$$.

End of rant.

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 13 years ago
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Ole johnnyringo talking about compromise. It is to laugh.

Aren`t you the one who said my hand-hammered Ludwig bronze Supra was only worth $200 because it was from 1990 and that like old cars, they depreciate in value? You were just upset that I didn`t snag your offer of $200. I did sell it for $425 three days later to a collector of 60+ vintage snares and 30+ kits here in Atlanta.

You suggested I not try ripping people off on this forum. You seem to only post when you have something to sell or if you are bumping up your ad.

I have the our little conversation back and forth in an archive so if anyone cares to see his exact words, I`d be happy to post for everyone to see if they just send me an email to forward it to.

Next time you have a lil rant johnnyringo, do us all a favor and not share it with us.

When people don`t respond to you lowball offers, it doesn`t mean they aren`t willing to compromise.

Posted on 13 years ago
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From fibes333

Ole johnnyringo talking about compromise. It is to laugh. Aren`t you the one who said my hand-hammered Ludwig bronze Supra was only worth $200 because it was from 1990 and that like old cars, they depreciate in value? You were just upset that I didn`t snag your offer of $200. I did sell it for $425 three days later to a collector of 60+ vintage snares and 30+ kits here in Atlanta. You suggested I not try ripping people off on this forum. You seem to only post when you have something to sell or if you are bumping up your ad.I have the our little conversation back and forth in an archive so if anyone cares to see his exact words, I`d be happy to post for everyone to see if they just send me an email to forward it to. Next time you have a lil rant johnnyringo, do us all a favor and not share it with us. When people don`t respond to you lowball offers, it doesn`t mean they aren`t willing to compromise.

Sounds familiar......... well put also, by the way.

Kevin
Posted on 13 years ago
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thx Kevins, I just felt it needed to be said since so many have responded to me privately with similar stories.

For the record, unlike some others have said, it is kinda personal with me since he lowballed me then accused me of "trying to rip people off' when I refused his lowball offer.

I did feel redeemed a few days later when a collector paid my full asking price locally.

Posted on 13 years ago
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From johnnyringo

For all you guys trying to sell drums.... learn to compromise with a potenial buyer.For example, I had my Ludwig kit up for months trying to get a certain amount, I realized maybe I was a bit too high so I lowered the price a bit and compromised with the buyer, I got what I needed and took that money and went to a local drum shop and compromised with the owner and wound up getting two kits. Sure, I could have held out for a few dollars more, which may have taken another few months, by that time the drums at the drum shop would most likely had been sold and I would had lost out on a great deal. Most people know that the economy is in the Toilet and you cannot expect to get what you could get in a thriving economy. Don't get get all bent out of shape if someone offers you a little less than you want, it's all a matter of economics. Someday,(probably after the 2012 election), the economy will pick up and you will be able to get exactly what you want.Cool1

Thank You! for offering a reasonable method of negotiating a price and sale. You included some details too. Dictators don't compromise. Negotiation doesn't exsist without compromise. You got the job done and both parties are satisfied. Bravo!

“In fact your pedal extremities are a bit obnoxious”. – Fats Waller
Posted on 13 years ago
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From Purdie Shuffle

JR - I have earned a supplemental income from drum sales for many years. The drum market, like any other, is cyclical in nature. As we speak, prices on vintage drum kits are going back to where they should be. My last several sales have been at fair market value and I didn't have to 'compromise' on price.It's all about 'what' you're selling. Certain items will hold their value even through rough markets. My point is; you can't generalize like that. The market may be depressed for low end stuff, but quality always holds value. The cycle is slowly turning upward from what I can see. Buy carefully, sell at fair prices and you'll do ok. Things are improving in the drum market from all indications. Refer to recent prices on ebay.BTW - ALL of our current economic problems are -inherited.- You know... little things like; three unpaid wars, Prescription drug deals with Big Pharmaceutical companies all unpaid for... they trashed a huge surplus that was left to them and then left it all for the next guy to clean up. It is the very same people who created this mess to begin with, who are now blocking any attempts to correct it. Blatantly standing in the way. And why? Because they want to win next time at all costs. Even if they have to trash the country and the economy to do it. Not "patriotic" at all. Yet they're the ones who wear little flag pins on their lapels as if they cared about country first. For them, it's party first, and our country 'maybe' a close third to Big Oil and the Koch bros. $. Patriots my a$$. End of rant.John

You are typical, the current administration has done NOTHING to improve the economy. He has taken a bad sitution and made it worse.

I remember when the unemployment rate under the previous adminstration was at 5% and the media was talking about how bad things were, now, we have been on or close to 10% unemployment for two years.This is incredible that guys like you still blame the previous administration. This guy is doing exactly what your claiming the other party is doing, but there is proof of it where as your theory has none. Otherwise, why would he continue down the same path that is failing. He had two years with both the house and congress under a Demo majority and they made a bigger mess.

OK, no more politics, that's not why I started this thread.

I'm really just trying to help people.

Posted on 13 years ago
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It's just tough times all around. Can't wait for this worldwide recession to end...

:(

Yeah- I'm THAT guy!!!

Dead dogs like rusty fire hydrants!!!
Posted on 13 years ago
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