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Thanks for the additional info, Dule. Drums made from cardboard? I can well believe it! My mother's family comes from East Germany. In the 80s she'd come back to the UK from visiting her parents and bring back presents...like watches that continuously broke down (eventually, the hands fell off mine).

Found some info in an online preview of The Cymbal Book:

Trowa

In 1875, Johannes Link (1947) founded a small percussion company in Weissenfels/Saale, in former East Germany. In 1907 Link registered the Sonor trademark in Berlin. The original factory, later under the name Takton [sic], produced Trowa cymbals.

According to Sonor, Trowa cymbals were low-budget pressed or spinformed cymbals. Notwithstanding their limited quality, Trowa had been leading the Eastern market for quite some years. The production ceased when the Berlin wall was pulled down. Shortly afterwards Sonor attempted to buy the Takton factory in order to set up another production space for various percussion instruments. When arriving at the old factory, it turned out to be completely empty. All - reasonable advanced - machinery had disappeared.

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Posted on 15 years ago
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Yeah Gerry,it was common practice in beggining of 90-es in former socialist countries and it was named transistion,baying factories for couple of $,or everyting missing from them for one night.Never mind that,I found some pics of Trowa hats.It was poor qualiti,not cast of course,and easilly band with bare hands!

Take a look,I found 18x14" Tacton bass drum from same era

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Thanks for the photos Dule. I'm not so keen on the look of late Tacton drums - they seem a bit angular - and I've heard bad things about their sound. Interesting, though.

I managed to sort out the snare mechanism. A guy with a few Trowa/Tacton drums set me straight. Trowa set the end of their wires in resin, along with a tensioning bolt. Total length was about 16". Needless to say there isn't much chance of finding a replacement! So, I used some M4 'eye bolts', knurled thumb nuts and conventional 14" wires. The wires don't extend over the beds/rims, so not ideal, but it works really well.

[IMG]http://i465.photobucket.com/albums/rr14/Longfuse123/Trowa1.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i465.photobucket.com/albums/rr14/Longfuse123/Trowa2.jpg[/IMG]

This is what the full kit would have looked like:

http://www.drummuseum.hu/gyujtemeny_a.php?a=c&f=2&mid=34&cid=59

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Identical snare going on German eBay if anyone is interested (shipping is international, but United States not covered by the look of things):

LINK

I wanted to buy it for spares as the chrome plating looks better on this one (probably an older drum - corner cutting probably happened as the years went by). The guy is selling it as a 'Sonor', though, so the bidding is already above what I'd be willing to pay for it.

Lugs have been replaced and the snares, unsurprisingly, are missing. The handle works in the other direction to mine, by the look of things...unless it's broken!

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Hello,don't look like Sonor too me!Maybe I'm wrong but!I look over Sonor catalogs,and didn;t find this type of snare mechanism.Teardroop lugs are similar,but Sonor had screwdriver type off screws,with 1/4"(6,35mm)nut-screw,and that on the picture looks like M6(6mm).Corect me if I'm wrong please

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From Dule

Hello,don't look like Sonor too me!Maybe I'm wrong but!I look over Sonor catalogs,and didn;t find this type of snare mechanism.Teardroop lugs are similar,but Sonor had screwdriver type off screws,with 1/4"(6,35mm)nut-screw,and that on the picture looks like M6(6mm).Corect me if I'm wrong please

You're right Dule, it's a Trowa and is almost identical to mine. The guy selling it is trying his luck...and succeeding by the look of things! (the final price will probably be a hell of a lot higher than it would be if advertised as a Trowa). IIR, he's from Berlin, so I'm sure he knows what it really is.

The tension bolts have been swapped for conventional ones. The wrap on old Trowas is really thick, so this one is in good condition too.

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Posted on 15 years ago
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hello,

it is a Trowa

I invite you to view pictures on the Frenchvwebsite "ladrummerie"

Trowa Vs Sonor here:

http://www.ladrummerie.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=17654&p=275254&hilit=trowa#p275254

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Thanks for the link, interesting! I didn't realise just how much Trowa were following/copying Sonor. I still love my Trowa, though (sounds great).

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From Gerry

Thanks for the link, interesting! I didn't realise just how much Trowa were following/copying Sonor. I still love my Trowa, though (sounds great).

Not sure this is actually true. When Sonor left for West Germany in 1950----presumably, it was an option for staff to either leave or stay and i am sure many people stayed, due to family connections, the uncertainty of a good future etc. etc. I have quite a few examples of various German made drums, ranging in age from ----probably the 1920's to the 1980's and it could be said that they all copied each other, if any copying was done at all. Workers ,probably would go to other companies to seek better employment and many ideas would come out of that,not dissimilar to sharing of ideas in the American drum business.

The old Trowa drums, made about the time that the exodus of Sonor workers took place were far superior to the early West German Sonors. I have an early 50's Sonor floor tom and it is the crudest and crappiest made drum I have ever seen.There was a community of interest and expertise ,in the art of musical instrument making in and around Dresden ----there were literally 100's of factories making instruments of all kinds and the workmanship was 1st class. Trowa became connected to Dresdner Apparatebau(best concert snaredrums in the world), the remnants of Lefima(another drum exodus to the West----oldest drum makers in Germany) and other smaller lesser known makers. The narrow snare pictured here(made around 1960 + has the finest muffler design ever put on a drum-----it is both a snap on and an adjustable all in one. The foundry work and chroming is generally good and the shell is built with old world care and expertise, likely from European Beech. So, does that make it a copy of a Sonor? Some of the same people that made that drum probably made Sonors at one time.What German drum of the period,didn't have teardrop lugs(5 ,at least did)? What German drum company didn't use beech in their shells?(---well, actually, all did , Trowa, as well but about the time this drum was made, East Germany was beginning the long slide into serious materials shortages and the shells began to come out in a softwood of some kind and then later a pressboard). Sonor, hardly ever had parallel drop snaredrums but with Trowa/Tacton it was almost ubiquitous. Trowa has the slickest, smoothest parallel throwoff, I have ever used and I have used quite a few.Trowa,moved to square head t-rods in the 1950's, which was very un Sonor. As far as wraps go, there was only one supplier of Celluloid wrap during the 40's,50's and 60's in Germany, so you will see some of the same wrap on all of the German drums. The designers ,engineers and builders of East German drums were equally as capable---possibly more so ,in some ways than some of their Western counterparts. They had materials and beuarocratic limitations, that probably would have brought any American company to a grinding halt and yet they produced fabulous instruments, under quite adverse conditions.My early 60's Trowa is one of the most responsive and well crafted drums ,I have ever played and contains within it some of the cleverest innovations. Rather than being criticised as mere copiers, I think that these craftsmen should be lauded as true innovators. Necessity is the Mother of Invention.

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Excellent post Calfskin and you raise some valid points. It's easy to forget that the 1960s was a boom time for many eastern-block countries too and not just the west, so goods from the DDR during that time could be of good quality.

I do wonder if Trowa had a different supplier for their wrap however, what with them being based in the East. I say that because virtually every 60s snare/kit I've seen on German eBay has immaculate wrap...and I can't say the same for vintage Sonor etc. The wrap on my snare is really thick and looks as good as the day it was first put on.

I also agree about the muffler. Totally cool and very easy to fine-tune. Plus it doesn't rattle when not deployed. And the parallel mechanism is cool, even with snare wires that are a tad under size - very responsive.

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