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Thoughts on Suspension Mounts for Toms

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"There are people stubborn on both sides of the issue. Not just on this forum, either. Two conflicting points of view that will never see eye to eye. Throw in a little over-zealous personal attachment to one's passion for their own personal drum sound they've spent years searching for and perfecting, and BOOM!--you have the recipe for a thread blowing up, and the fighters having their coaches jump into the ring to drag them back to their corners..."

Please note that I am not looking to start WW3 over this topic. I see both sides of this issue and would even take both sides depending on the situation. I don't like to engage in forum wars, and would like it even less if I started a thread that resulted in name-calling and the like.

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Posted on 13 years ago
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From caddywumpus

Oh boy! ANOTHER suspension mount thread. I'll save us all some time:1. They DO enhance resonance at low tunings, but some people either don't hear/want the extra resonance or tune their drums so high that the effect is negligible. Also, in order for it to have its full effect, you need to take off the original mounting hardware.2. They make something vintage look newer, which takes away a slight bit of mojo, true, but the result is sturdier mounting in the case of otherwise "I wonder when is this old hardware going to fail me?" situations. Some people like the streamline look and the dependability, whereas some people desire the look of the original hardware or are just set in their ways.Neither side of the arguments are correct or incorrect. Everyone's opinion is recognized as valued and important, but just as much as everyone ELSE'S opinions. Let's keep this civil, gentlemen...Kiss

EXACTLY!!!!

Thanks for being a voice of reason.

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Dead dogs like rusty fire hydrants!!!
Posted on 13 years ago
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Posted on 13 years ago
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From geckobeats

I use DW's 6000 series stands so mounting the Tom off of the Crash stand was not an option......If you use heavy stands them a RIMS mount makes sense to me.

You don't need heavy stands. I clamp tom mounts onto Yamaha 600 series cymbal stands. The issue with the DW 6000 stand has more to do with the flat base than it does the weight of the stand...

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Posted on 13 years ago
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As for this type mount, I'm on the fence. I like my stuff to look the way it was designed to look, but I also like to maximize performance. Since I can't play well enough for it to make that big of a difference, I choose to leave mine original for the time being. How's that for uber-non committal? Storm Trooper

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Posted on 13 years ago
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From jonnistix

As for this type mount, I'm on the fence. I like my stuff to look the way it was designed to look, but I also like to maximize performance. Since I can't play well enough for it to make that big of a difference, I choose to leave mine original for the time being. How's that for uber-non committal? Storm Trooper

I am kinda in the same thought process as you. However, I figure if it's a relatively clean kit that will not be a working kit, I will probably not use suspension mounts. If it's a kit that needs a lot of love and care to become even a playable kit, it's going to become a new bunnyman institute hotrod kit, repleat with suspension mounts, powdercoated hardware, and the whole shooting match.

That's what I determine when buying and using vintage guitars- if I had a mint '59 Les Paul, it would never leave the house; if I had a basket case '62 Strat, I would go ahead and put a Floyd Rose on it if other things were screwed up (i.e. routed for a humbucker, etc.) and play the cr** out of it.

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Dead dogs like rusty fire hydrants!!!
Posted on 13 years ago
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From bunnyman

I am kinda in the same thought process as you. However, I figure if it's a relatively clean kit that will not be a working kit, I will probably not use suspension mounts. If it's a kit that needs a lot of love and care to become even a playable kit, it's going to become a new bunnyman institute hotrod kit, repleat with suspension mounts, powdercoated hardware, and the whole shooting match. That's what I determine when buying and using vintage guitars- if I had a mint '59 Les Paul, it would never leave the house; if I had a basket case '62 Strat, I would go ahead and put a Floyd Rose on it if other things were screwed up (i.e. routed for a humbucker, etc.) and play the cr** out of it.

That's exactly it. When I pick up shells that are basically done for, I determine their usefulness and set them aside to become jungle kits or donor kits. In order to fund my habit of giving to talented kids, I have to sell approx 2 kits for every one I give away. If there is any chance a complete set comes to me that is rough but all there, it gets a bath and new shoes, then I decide if it stays or goes. Mostly they have to go, these days as I have drums stacked on top of drums in my garage and office. I really need to conentrate on getting some more moved, but I am running short of floor toms for jungle kit basses...gotta have those old MIJ 16s for bass drums.

"Ignorance may be overcome through education. Stupidity, however, is a lifelong endeavor." So, educate me, I don't likes bein' ignant...
"I enjoy restoring 60s Japanese "stencil" drums...I can actually afford them..."I rescue the worst of the old valueless drums for disadvantaged Children and gladly accept donations of parts, pieces and orphans, No cockroaches, please...
http://www.youtube.com/user/karstenboy
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Coffee...16613138379603
Posted on 13 years ago
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From jonnistix

That's exactly it. When I pick up shells that are basically done for, I determine their usefulness and set them aside to become jungle kits or donor kits. In order to fund my habit of giving to talented kids, I have to sell approx 2 kits for every one I give away. If there is any chance a complete set comes to me that is rough but all there, it gets a bath and new shoes, then I decide if it stays or goes. Mostly they have to go, these days as I have drums stacked on top of drums in my garage and office. I really need to conentrate on getting some more moved, but I am running short of floor toms for jungle kit basses...gotta have those old MIJ 16s for bass drums.

I have a bunch of orphans with no mates; however, not filling my house (yet).

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Dead dogs like rusty fire hydrants!!!
Posted on 13 years ago
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