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From K.O.

If I were going to get a modern set right now it would probably be either a Gretsch USA Custom (although maybe a Broadkaster) or a Ludwig Legacy (in the new Mod Orange). Either is a modern take on vintage style drums. (Un)fortunately I can't afford either but I have PLENTY of drums already. I do have a couple of newer sets though. One is a Gretsch Renown in bop sizes which I redid the cosmetics on, among other things putting on Round Badges. The other is a Ludwig Classic Maple Downbeat sized set in the "Salesman" striped wrap. On that set as well I retro-ized it by adding a rail mount and shell mounted cymbal holder. So even when I get new stuff I try to make it more like the old stuff I generally prefer and I would likely order (or modify) the aforementioned modern sets in a similar fashion if I could afford either of them (I do like having the modern spurs on both these sets though).

Very classy kits. Does Ludwig still sell the salesman wrap kits? I thought it was a limited run, but Forks drum closet sold a new one a few weeks ago.

Posted on 6 years ago
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Don't know about availability of the salesman sample kits, but be prepared to get some Black Keys requests when gigging with them. I am a transplant to the Akron Ohio area, so I missed out on seeing the BK's in the early years, but I have met Patrick Carney briefly on a few occasions, he's seems like a pretty down to earth guy despite their crazy success.

Stop stringing and tuning your instrument, make music now.
-fortune cookie

Vintage Drums:
1970ish Ludwig Standard Avocado Strata downbeat
1970ish Star Acrylic 22,12,13,16
1950’s Gretsch tympani 26.5
19?? Sonor roto-tympani 13x12
70’s Ludwig Standard alum 14x5 snare
90’s Arbiter Adv. Tuning 12x5 snare
90’s Ludwig blackrolite 14x5 snare

Modern Drums:
Erie Drums 1-ply sycamore shell kit 18,10,13
Erie 1-ply maple 14x5 snare
Tama S.L.P. Acrylic 14x6.5 snare
Posted on 6 years ago
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I'm a fan of them. One of the bands I play with plays I Got Mine and Gold on the Ceiling. Maybe Carney will get another unique wrapped kit from Ludwig in the future.

Posted on 6 years ago
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From Mo Tonkie

Very classy kits. Does Ludwig still sell the salesman wrap kits? I thought it was a limited run, but Forks drum closet sold a new one a few weeks ago.

As far as I know there was only enough wrap to make so many sets. Of course they could always get more made up...or you could have it made and then supply it to Ludwig to put on new drums. It's been a while since I looked but there were still a few new sets for sale on ebay a while back, but they were all from that same production run.

I was buying a snare drum thru Russo music, dealing with Steve D (no longer affiliated with that company...unfortunately) and he asked if I needed anything else and I jokingly replied (email) yeah, I need one of those Ludwig Salesman kits in the Downbeat sizes...and within an hour he shot me back a price I couldn't refuse. Not long after that the 16x16 popped up on ebay and I snagged it as well (part of a larger kit that the owner wasn't using). I have nearly 40 drum sets and most are vintage(ish) but these are some sweet sounding drums with a definite vintage vibe.

Posted on 6 years ago
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To the theme of the thread...

After 6 years of high school wood shop, I have a real appreciation for precision woodworking, hand craftsmanship, and people who still have all their fingers.

My (if I win the lottery) wish list of modern drums is full with kits from the makers mentioned in the thread (Noble and Cooley, Treehouse, Q, Cravotto etc.), but I am lucky enough to already own a modern kit that rivals those, at least when it comes to the craftsmanship of the shells. I know I have posted pics of this one in other threads, but hey, I only have three kits, and I REALLY love this one. You know, it's like showing off pics of your kids...any chance you get, right?

It was a right place, right time, CL situation. The builder (Ian Witt) who lives my local area posted the 3 piece kit (18 bass,10 tom,13 floor) for $1800 to start (if memory serves) and dropped the price a little over a few weeks or so. When he was down to like $1400, I offered $1000, and he surprisingly took it, saying that he really needed the money to help fund a project that he was doing with/for Noble and Cooley I think. The hardware on the kit is adequate and light, but not quite up to par with level of the shells. The shells are phenomenal, all three are steam bent from the same plank of locally sourced sycamore wood with cherry re-rings. Oh, and a few days after the deal, he noticed that I had an 80's Premier Royale kit on CL, and since I had bought his personal kit leaving him momentarily without one, he called me up and we traded straight up for the single ply maple snare pictured.

Hate to end it with a bummer but...I have since read some forum threads (not on VDF) that the builder Mr. Witt was accused of some late deliveries on drum orders or worse... I don't know any of the details of any of that, I can only attest to the fact that he was very professional and timely during our transactions, and the drums he makes are really something special.

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Stop stringing and tuning your instrument, make music now.
-fortune cookie

Vintage Drums:
1970ish Ludwig Standard Avocado Strata downbeat
1970ish Star Acrylic 22,12,13,16
1950’s Gretsch tympani 26.5
19?? Sonor roto-tympani 13x12
70’s Ludwig Standard alum 14x5 snare
90’s Arbiter Adv. Tuning 12x5 snare
90’s Ludwig blackrolite 14x5 snare

Modern Drums:
Erie Drums 1-ply sycamore shell kit 18,10,13
Erie 1-ply maple 14x5 snare
Tama S.L.P. Acrylic 14x6.5 snare
Posted on 6 years ago
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