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Wow, Michael, I like the fact you have done so much to bring light to some of these drums. I tend to look at the older, really cheap stuff, but you have opened my eyes to some of these. I guess my love for the older funkier stuff is because of it's coolness factor, not so much the reality of the sound out of the box. Thanks!

Let's face, most of the stuff I like is the real budget lines that were the Sears specials, and the K-Mart Blue Light Specials and J.M. Fields stuff, the PP and GP and SP of the day. And I love them, because they look good, not so much that they sound like a professional quality kit, as the stuff you have mentioned. Those kits you bring up are all solid mid-market competitors, and they should be, because they really all sound so good. I like the beginner stuff, ultimately because they look like the Slingerlands with some cool hardware that none of the American builders used, like the cymbal mount and holder on my bass drum.

As for the Birch shell, I agree with Michael, they don't have the same warmth, but are better for larger venues were you need the volume to cut through. Birch is a higher density wood that many other woods used for drums, so the resonance is more focused, with more projection and higher pitch because the sound waves don't penetrate the wood as easily as it does other woods.

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Posted on 14 years ago
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I play a Mapex Q series 22,16,14,13,12 (beginner's) kit on a regular basis in the same venue in the 9 ply 7mm Basswood config. you mentioned. I had to work with the edges by sanding (as you do jonnistix) and waxing with parafin. Once this was done though the toms sing and are not overbearing with a warm tone and when neccesary, some punch. The bass is boomy yet melow. The rack toms have a surprisingly wide tuning range. Much wider than maple shells, although the 16" floor tom does not tune up quite as well. The hardware is decent but not great, except for the tom mount which is the same mount found on Mapex's expensive kits.

The Gretsch Catalina Elite Club kit in WMP with the 30 degree edges in 12,14,14,18 is one of the best deals out there for $500. Well constructed kit with the same tom mount found on Gretsch's much more expensive kits. The 18 is a soft canon when tuned right and the Luan in the 12 and 14 toms resonates like a smooth Marguerita...

-kellyj

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Posted on 14 years ago
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You can get any of those Gretsch Cat kits for under that. Carefully shop and timing is everything. Watch the inventory changeover at the heavy hitter internet and catalog houses. It will save you several hundred dollars per kit.

What wrap did you pick up on that Mapex V? Those were some seriously good gigging kits. Loved the ones I went through. The last one I owned served me well. The bass player I played with at the time was a doctor. He had his own practice and was also one of the staff doctors for the Buffalo Bills. His secretary's kid fell in love with my kit. So, I said goodbye to it. That's how it goes, I guess.

Posted on 14 years ago
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You're just passing on the love when giving them away :)

The Mapex Q kit I sometimes play has a really nice black galaxy wrap, similar in looks to a '90's Ludwig Acrolite Black Galaxy snare finish. Really awesome under some lighting. It is a great gigging kit! You don't have to worry about scratching it up, if it happens, so what! Yet, the sound you want is there. Even Pearl's cheap "Target" series kit is in this category, except for the crappy wraps Pearl uses at this price point. In the wrap and hardware department, Mapex has the edge at the $400 beginner kit price point.

I live in Canada and the Gretsch Catalina club sometimes goes on sale for $499. We pay a lot more for stuff here...:( because of the smaller market.

-kellyj

"It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing..."
Posted on 14 years ago
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Kelly....what Province/city do you live in?..Im near London Ont.

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Posted on 14 years ago
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