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Safe to tune bass drum on its side?

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My bass drum is all set up and I don't want to take everything apart to get it to lay down flat if i don't have to.

Is it ok for me to tighten / loosen the lugs to tune my bass while its on my drum set?

If not, why?

Also how do you know if you are tightening your drum heads too much?

Thanks

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Posted on 14 years ago
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Yes, once you get the head in place and the drum tuned, initially, then you should be able to fine-tune it as you sit there. You don't have to take the entire drum set apart to tune the bass drum....but you should have to do it whenever you change heads so that you can get the collar of the head to "seat" against the bearing edge of the shell. Once that's done, then you can tweak it as needed.

How tight is too tight? There's no formula, really. It's just kind of common sense. Each drum size kind of has an optimal range of tuning. You get the size drums that meet your sound requirements and then tune them to their comfort zone -which is different depending on the type of shell, the type of drumhead and all that stuff.

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Posted on 14 years ago
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From O-Lugs

How tight is too tight? There's no formula, really. It's just kind of common sense. Each drum size kind of has an optimal range of tuning. You get the size drums that meet your sound requirements and then tune them to their comfort zone -which is different depending on the type of shell, the type of drumhead and all that stuff.

Thanks man.

But one thing makes me nervous (i am new and just figuring certain things out)... the very second I feel the lug get tight I panic and don't go any tighter. I feel like if I do something will break. Is what I am doing good? Or is it ok for me to go tighter?

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Posted on 14 years ago
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I used a Crescent wrench the first time I "tuned" my kit and nothing happened. I blew clean through the kick with the beater shortly after too so my point is unless you are using a Nascar wheel man impact wrench on those things, I don't think nothing will happen. Of course, this is assuming you have a quality American made set of drums. I still don't have a drum key either. I just use a wrench or whatever fits from my tool box. No big deal.

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Posted on 14 years ago
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From drumhack

I used a Crescent wrench the first time I "tuned" my kit and nothing happened. I blew clean through the kick with the beater shortly after too so my point is unless you are using a Nascar wheel man impact wrench on those things, I don't think nothing will happen. Of course, this is assuming you have a quality American made set of drums. I still don't have a drum key either. I just use a wrench or whatever fits from my tool box. No big deal.toodlesdrumhack band2Keep on PlStorm Trooperflowers2Mind BlowiMind Blowi

Dude, you really should stop by a music store and get a drum key....they are cheap! That way you don't take the risk of rounding off one of those irreplaceable vintage Rogers tension rods!

Posted on 14 years ago
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From warwormx

But one thing makes me nervous... the very second I feel the lug get tight I panic and don't go any tighter. I feel like if I do something will break...

If you're tuning a bass drum so tight that it feels like lugs might break... That sounds like you're tuning a LOT tighter than I'd expect. It's pretty common to tune bass drums "JAW" or Just Above Wrinkling. Check out this video from Evans and Bob Gatzen for an example:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjDXbwvKR-4[/ame]

Of course, there's more than one way to skin the proverbial cat. There are a lot of different opinions on bass tuning, particularly when it comes to muffling and venting. I think the video's advice on head tensioning is a pretty sound starting point for a beginner, though.

Posted on 14 years ago
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From Ludwig-dude

Dude, you really should stop by a music store and get a drum key....they are cheap! That way you don't take the risk of rounding off one of those irreplaceable vintage Rogers tension rods!

SLINGERLAND!!! I have owned one kit. Never owned a Rogers. Probably never will, but maybe in a few years, but probably not.

I do agree though, I should get a drum key but to be honest, I don't really tune my kit much at all. I can't even hear it with my IPOD on anyways.....LoLoLoLo

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Posted on 14 years ago
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Hey Luddy... you and Drumhack are famous pals, send the man a damn drum key.

C'mon, it'll make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside.............................:D

Kevin
Posted on 14 years ago
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i think VDF should change their slogan..it should no longer be "ask a question, get an answer."

perhaps it could be changed to "ask a serious question, get a serious answer."

i don't mean to pry..

but this is getting ridiculous.

just my :2Cents:

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Posted on 14 years ago
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From LudwigLover

i think VDF should change their slogan..it should no longer be "ask a question, get an answer."perhaps it could be changed to "ask a serious question, get a serious answer."i don't mean to pry..but this is getting ridiculous.just my :2Cents:

What do you mean?

Kevin
Posted on 14 years ago
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