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"To Oil or Not To Oil" ? That's the question

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I've been pondering this of late and decided to start a new thread. There may very well be similar past threads - if so forgive my redundancy. My question involves whether or not to apply oil to the raw wood inside of vintage drum shells. This assumes that they are not painted as in Ludwig or Gretsch shells which I would leave well enough alone.

In my opinion these old shells cry out to be oiled. They are bone dry and just soak up the oil which feeds the wood and just makes them look all the more beautiful. I'm aware of the sonic issues and know that technically adding the oil to the wood would dampen the vibrations a bit and change the sonic characteristics. There is technical merit to this and as an aerospace engineer I actually spent a little time working with dynamic structural engineers whose entire job was evaluating vibration characteristics of critical aircraft components. However my old ears can't tell the difference in my drums oil or no oil - of coarse after 40 years of playing rock and roll my ears ain't what they used to be - lol !

As an example I've attached a couple of pics of a Slingerland RK kit that I pieced together about a year ago. I was looking for a beat up gig kit that sounded good but without the fuss of cases to minimize setup tear down efforts I got the BD and FT from CL and the ST from ebay. They were all in pretty rough shape with resonate heads hoops and lugs missing- peeling WMP wrap etc etc. I pieced them back together as best I could and in the process applied several coats of lemon oil to the inside shells. They drank the oil up as fast as I could apply it and in the process took on a beautiful dark amber color. I could almost hear the shells say " Thank You !! "

I'd love to know what you guys think. Did I screw these shells up by applying the oil ? Did I improve them with the oil ? Or maybe it doesn't matter one way or the other. Your astute comments are very much appreciated.

Doug

Posted on 9 years ago
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Lemon oil or scotts liquid gold are good products, But I haven't noticed any disconcernable sonic difference once applied myself.

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Posted on 9 years ago
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I wouldn't have been able to resist doing the same myself. They look great and no doubt still sound great so a win-win in my books!

Super kit you got there.

Mitch

Posted on 9 years ago
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What do people say it's supposed to do for sound, and what about tung oil? I find it interesting .

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Posted on 9 years ago
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I have never seen consensus on how or whether coating a drum interior will affect the sound. My experience with the urethanes suggested to me a "brighter" sound than previously unfinished interiors--but an A/B comparo is impossible. I have applied lemon oil and and tung oil and didn't notice any change in sound.

Posted on 9 years ago
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I wouldn't care for the smell once the oil is applied, that's why I'd never do such a thing.

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Posted on 9 years ago
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I treated my wood Congas with Danish Oil a few days before varnishing them and from what the directions and other sources said, the oil will soak in dry hard and protect the wood. I treated my 1960 Slingerland bass drum before I wrapped it and it sounds great. It was really dry. I think it is good for old dry shells to be treated with the teak or Danish oil.

Posted on 9 years ago
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What did you say, I cant hear you. Ya , Ive been rockin for 40 years too man!

The smell is an issue, but you know that because you already did the shells. I think all you really did was add some preservative to the shells and made em look real pretty, and that is good. Nice kit by the way!

And one more public thank you to you for the help you gave me on my Camco kit. You were the most important part of the whole project and I cant thank you enough, it would have never happened if it were not for your generosity!


Thank you!
Jeff C

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Posted on 9 years ago
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From vibes

I treated my wood Congas with Danish Oil a few days before varnishing them and from what the directions and other sources said, the oil will soak in dry hard and protect the wood. I treated my 1960 Slingerland bass drum before I wrapped it and it sounds great. It was really dry. I think it is good for old dry shells to be treated with the teak or Danish oil.

Agreed... I do a little wood turning and often use teak oil as a base.. The smell soon disappears.. (In my case I then burnish the finish with a hard wax).. I think this kit looks great and would do the same or similar to a dried out shell..

John

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Posted on 9 years ago
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In addition to my post on "best snare drum ever made" I'd like to say that I think it would be really nice if scientists would do tests. I guess A/B comparisons could be made. Bare shell, tune, strike, record sound waves. Then oil the shell, tune in the same fashion, strike, record soundwaves. Then compare soundwaves. Statistically calculate if differences found are real or due to coincidence.

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Posted on 9 years ago
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