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Hi everyone, I'm looking to find the value of my Slingerland drum set and Zildjian cymbals. From what I've been able to find online, they all look to be from the early 70's. Is there a site online or is there someone I should be looking for locally to do this for me? I really don't know where to start and I don't want to just give them away if they're worth something. I'm also wondering how much the value is reduced if the outer shell is peeling off which it is on two of the drums. And another thing I've been wondering is whether to seperate the drums and cymbals or try to sell everything together. Any advice would be appreciated, thanks.

Posted on 14 years ago
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Welcome to the Forum. We have members here that can answer the questions you are asking but you need to post pics. It is hard to give a proper assessment without pics. For the cymbal pics, make sure you take a close up of the stamp. For the drum pic, capture the insides of the shells as well as the badge.

Lots of luck

Cheers

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1975 Sonor Phonic Centennials Metallic Pewter 22-16-13-12-14sn (D506)
1971 Ludwig Classic Bowling Ball OBP 22-16-14-13
1960's Stewart Peacock Pearl 20-16-12-14sn
1980`s Ludwig Coliseum Piano Black 8x14 snare
1973 Rogers Superten 5x14 & 6.5x14 COS snares
1970`s John Grey Capri Aquamarine Sparkle 5x14 snare
1941 Ludwig & Ludwig Super 8x14 snare
Posted on 14 years ago
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Thanks for the welcome, I took some pics but the camera isn't very quality so I didn't get some of the important things you mentioned. So here's what I have.

Drums: 22" bass with Slingerland pedal, 14" snare, 16" floor, 13" and 14" toms, 12" tom on a seperate stand, and Slingerland high hat. All of these are in good shape, the inner shells look excellent, the problem is the outer shell. It must have happened when they were stored in varying temperatures or something but the bass and one tom are peeling off and two of the other drums have yellowed so they are a slightly different shade than the others. I'm not sure what this does to the value but I'm guessing it's not good. The heads are also assorted and although they are in good shape I'm assuming the new owner would want some quality matching heads.

Edit: Maybe I should say the wrap, not the outer shell, whatever is under the wrap looks fine, it's just the outer coating. Excuse my lack of knowlegde.

Cymbals:

I couldn't get the emblem on the cymbals to show up in a pic but from some of the guides I've looked at they are from the early 70's as well. There is a 21" ride, 10" splash, and 14" hat that have the same logo. Then I have a 16" crash that has the painted logo and is probably from the early 80's. All of these are in very good shape as well.

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One more. Unfortunately they're probably too small to see anything. I'll have to get a better camera.

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Does the badge on the 13 face forward when mounted on the bass-a 14 mounted is not very common,it was probably added.

A fixer-upper is hard to give a value to,and 70's drums are not as collectible as earlier gold/black badge drums.To get the maximum value out of the set,the bass and 13 will need to be recovered.The different sellers of WMP(white marine pearl)vary slightly in shade and/or pattern.I think one is actually called "aged WMP".Others more knowledgeable in this medium will probably chime in soon.If those were mine,they'd be fixed and playin' out!

But as far as a value,the owner/buyer should be looking at a substantial investment to get them recovered beforehand-I'd think $300 minimum,not even including shipping 2 ways.

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From teverson-sr

Does the badge on the 13 face forward when mounted on the bass-a 14 mounted is not very common,it was probably added.A fixer-upper is hard to give a value to,and 70's drums are not as collectible as earlier gold/black badge drums.To get the maximum value out of the set,the bass and 13 will need to be recovered.The different sellers of WMP(white marine pearl)vary slightly in shade and/or pattern.I think one is actually called "aged WMP".Others more knowledgeable in this medium will probably chime in soon.If those were mine,they'd be fixed and playin' out!But as far as a value,the owner/buyer should be looking at a substantial investment to get them recovered beforehand-I'd think $300 minimum,not even including shipping 2 ways.

No the 14 faces forward but not the 13.

Is there much of a market for drums that need work like this? I kind of figured they wouldn't be worth too much but I was hoping to get something out of the cymbals at least. I would like to keep them but I'm not any good and I can't play them where I live anyway, hopefully I'll give it a shot someday with something smaller.

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Although they're high quality drums, most 1970s Slingerlands don't generally command high prices even in good shape. And unfortunately, the damage to the wrap puts a major dent in what value they would've had. I think teverson's $300 estimate is probably in the right ballpark.

I might consider breaking out the 14" tom as a separate item because it might hold some value for someone looking to use it as a floor tom in a bop-sized jazz kit. It probably wouldn't diminish your kit's value much if at all since the 12-13-16 toms would still be a standard five-piece configuration. Along this same line of thought, selling the whole kit in pieces would probably yield you more money, but I think just about everyone here would tell you it's bad karma to break up the drums of a vintage kit.

Assuming they're in good shape, the cymbals could very well hold some value. To maximize your return, you'll want to sell each cymbal separately (hi-hats as a pair). You'll also need to have good pictures of them to draw bidders or buyers online. Sound files and each cymbal's weight in grams could also draw the interest of potential buyers.

With decent pics, you may even be able to get some money for the hardware like cymbal stands and whatnot. If they're in good shape, these are the kinds of things that people look for to round out an otherwise complete set, to replace worn or broken items, or to add on to a vintage set. You won't get rich off this stuff, but it should buy you more than a few beers.

...and if you're serious about selling, why not post on the "For Sale" forum here? Who better to advertise to than a bunch of vintage drum junkies? Maybe one of us is within driving distance and can save you the trouble of packing and shipping (which can add up and drive away potential buyers).

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From SkyDog75

Although they're high quality drums, most 1970s Slingerlands don't generally command high prices even in good shape. And unfortunately, the damage to the wrap puts a major dent in what value they would've had. I think teverson's $300 estimate is probably in the right ballpark.With that said, if I was looking to buy a vintage kit to refinish and play out with, I'd be looking for something like your drums. Great vintage 3-ply shells without the museum piece price tag.Assuming they're in good shape, the cymbals could very well have more value than the drums. To maximize your return, you'll want to sell each cymbal separately (hi-hats as a pair). You'll also need to have good pictures of them to draw bidders or buyers online. Sound files and each cymbal's weight in grams could also draw the interest of potential buyers.With decent pics, you may even be able to get some money for the hardware like cymbal stands and whatnot. If they're in good shape, these are the kinds of things that people look for to round out an otherwise complete set, to replace worn or broken items, or to add on to a vintage set. You won't get rich off this stuff, but it should buy you more than a few beers....and if you're serious about selling, why not post on the "For Sale" forum here? Who better to advertise to than a bunch of vintage drum junkies? Maybe one of us is within driving distance and can save you the trouble of packing and shipping (which can add up and drive away potential buyers).

Exactly on the mark IMHO.

Welcome to the circus! You'll get more opinions as well. Hold on for gobs of info.

fishwaltz
Posted on 14 years ago
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From SkyDog75

Although they're high quality drums, most 1970s Slingerlands don't generally command high prices even in good shape. And unfortunately, the damage to the wrap puts a major dent in what value they would've had. I think teverson's $300 estimate is probably in the right ballpark.I might consider breaking out the 14" tom as a separate item because it might hold some value for someone looking to use it as a floor tom in a bop-sized jazz kit. It probably wouldn't diminish your kit's value much if at all since the 12-13-16 toms would still be a standard five-piece configuration. Along this same line of thought, selling the whole kit in pieces would probably yield you more money, but I think just about everyone here would tell you it's bad karma to break up the drums of a vintage kit.Assuming they're in good shape, the cymbals could very well hold some value. To maximize your return, you'll want to sell each cymbal separately (hi-hats as a pair). You'll also need to have good pictures of them to draw bidders or buyers online. Sound files and each cymbal's weight in grams could also draw the interest of potential buyers.With decent pics, you may even be able to get some money for the hardware like cymbal stands and whatnot. If they're in good shape, these are the kinds of things that people look for to round out an otherwise complete set, to replace worn or broken items, or to add on to a vintage set. You won't get rich off this stuff, but it should buy you more than a few beers....and if you're serious about selling, why not post on the "For Sale" forum here? Who better to advertise to than a bunch of vintage drum junkies? Maybe one of us is within driving distance and can save you the trouble of packing and shipping (which can add up and drive away potential buyers).

Thanks for the excellent information. I will defnitely put stuff in the for sale section, but I have no idea what to sell it for and don't want to be one of those best offer guys. The 14" that you mentioned is pretty much perfect, not faded or peeling at all, would you have an idea of what this might be worth? That sounds like a good idea to sell it seperately, I hadn't thought of that, hopefully the karma wont be too bad :).

Posted on 14 years ago
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Looking at completed auctions on eBay, I'm a little surprised how low comparable cymbals are selling for. I know it's a buyer's market with the current economy and all, but WOW. (I think it's time for me to do some more cymbal shopping!)

Assuming your cymbals are A's:

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[*] 21" Zildjian A ride cymbals from the 70s seem to be selling in the $90-100 range including shipping, unless it's a specific (recent) model like the Sweet Ride that buyers are looking for.

[*] Zildjian A hi-hats seem to be going for roughly $125 shipped.

[*] Various 16" Zildjian A crashes seem to be going for about $85 shipped.

[*] 10" Zildjian A splashes have been selling in the neighborhood of $60 shipped.

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If your cymbals are hand-hammered K's, they'll be worth more than the numbers above.

As for stands and hardware, values can vary WIDELY depending on model specifics and condition. For example, there are completed auctions for 1970s Slingerland hi-hat stands ranging from roughly $20 to $120. You'll need better pics of the stands before we can venture a guess. (And it's still a guess -- auction prices for vintage drum gear can be a crap shoot.)

To guess at a value for the 14" tom, we'll need to know its depth. If it's fairly shallow like 10", it probably won't fetch all that much -- maybe $100 shipped at the high end of the range. If it's deeper, preferably around 14", it'll be more valuable.

Posted on 14 years ago
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