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Hmm, I was wondering about how much keyholing/minor damage would take value away as a 19" vintage K with pretty big keyholing and a bunch of edge nicks I saw went for $2k.

As for the riveting, never really noticed the in/out pattern... but I do know circumference-wise the spacing is kinda haphazard like you said. Anyway, the other 4 rivets were just like the ones I showed.

Not sure what I'll do for now... really like the cymbal a lot (even when I didn't know much about it I still liked it) but I could really use the money and still have some drum stuff to buy (isn't there always). Is that 1.5k a real definite thing or is there a chance it might not go for so much? I'm still quite the beginner so I'm not so definite on styles I play although I guess for now and in winter percussion pretty much rock playing, but I do love jazz. It's my absolute favorite for saxophone, I'm just not so well-versed in the drumming aspect of it. Another thing I wonder is that probably someone out there who is an avid collector and a really experienced player could probably appreciate the cymbal more, although I dunno.

Posted on 15 years ago
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[COLOR="DarkRed"]It's a tough call.

But I would say: YES, on eBay you would get $1500 for it because it's a 21"...which is pretty unusual....regardless of the rivet holes and minor mounthole crack.

IF...jazz playing is in your future....then KEEP the cymbal. K's take some woodshedding to get 'em to play the way you want 'em to. Turkish hand-hammered cymbals are not the most user-friendly...you gotta learn 'em.

Also...to a younger ear they may sound a bit wild and uncontrolled....but, trust me, the more you expose yourself to handmade cymbals...the more your ear will acquire a taste for the beauty of the sound.

Buy a crapload of different kinds of sticks. Firth SD10's, and SD4 combos, some round-tipped Boleros or Vater Fusions, some Regal Jazz wood-tipped, etc, etc, etc. They will ALL make the cymbal sound different.

I dunno how old you are...but I can tell you, from a guy at the half-century mark....I don't wanna even THINK about all of the good, old instruments I sold at the time just to liquidate 'em into cash which proved to be...ephemeral at best.

It really IS a rare cymbal...so unless you are seriously hard up for $$$$, hold onto it, gather more opinions, and think about it over the long-term.The Band

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Posted on 15 years ago
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Oh man, you guys will get a kick out of this. I was a typical uncareful 17-year-old and assumed the old owner's measurement was correct. It's a 22"! Actually, more like the cymbals described here, where it is 21.75". I feel like an idiot now xP. By the way, did that mean that person spend too much?

Anyway, I see what you mean by not just jumping on the cash. Basically, I was/am cutting into leisure savings (for non-essentials in college like maybe a trip overseas or fancy computer gear or whatever) with buying drum gear, and was tantalized by the thought of suddenly having more money as I need to buy a new secondary crash and a more versatile ride (probably a K Custom Hybrid), as well as stuff like another stand, an arm clamp, etc. I like the idea of just holding onto the cymbal unless I get really short on cash... be something like in Arrested Development (There's always money in the old K! ;) ).

By all means I do need some new sticks, all I have are a bunch of nylon tipped 5A and B's that came with the set and one pair of "Back Bay" hickory wood-tips. None really made for articulate cymbal sounds, mostly just middle of the road feel/response. The local music store has limited selection but I'll look into things more.

Where would one normally go to find a cymbal evaluation in person? Tried to look into stuff but only found an expensive online apprasial service that only looks at pictures you send them.

Thanks soooooo much for all the help by the way! I really try to research things on my own, but some stuff you really have to ask for help with I guess. : p

Posted on 15 years ago
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[COLOR="DarkRed"]Member Drumaholic is a flat-out expert when it comes to vintage cymbal-dom. I dunno if he gives "legit" appraisals...but I would say I doubt there is anyone on earth who knows more about vintage K's and A's than he.

You should PM him or e-mail him.

Member jcymbal also is very knowledgeable...but again I dunno if he gives appraisals. Do you have a vintage or used music store near you with a knowledgeable drum dept ?

Yes...there's money in the Banana Stand.Excited

22" ? Yes, so easily $1500.

I know it's tempting to just cash it in....

Finally...5A's and similarly profiled sticks are probably GUARANTEED to get the LEAST out of any vintage cymbal.Toilet

Pony up a few bucks and start experimenting with better stix....[/COLOR]

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Posted on 15 years ago
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[COLOR="DarkOliveGreen"]Of, course...I mean...the idea of taking the $1.5 and going on an excellent summer trip abroad to some cool place in the world...mmmm...that's a pretty good argument for liquidating .

But I wouldn't liquidate it to buy contemporary cymbals or gear. THAT would be a mistake, IMHO.[/COLOR]

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Posted on 15 years ago
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Could you post a profile picture? Did you mention the weight? I'll look again!

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Posted on 15 years ago
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Okay, so here are the pics:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v423/ragingscythe/kcymbalside002.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v423/ragingscythe/kcymbalside001.jpg

Using a rough check on a lbs scale it weighs about 2000 grams, so extra thin.

Thanks! xD

Posted on 15 years ago
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thanks for those shots!

that 2000g weight must be off though... could you post the figure in pounds? Thanks in advance.

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Posted on 15 years ago
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It comes out to about 4.4-4.5 lbs on the scale, could it be that the scale is off?

Posted on 15 years ago
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if this is a 22" (or 21"something) that scale is probably off... or maybe it's a 20"?

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Posted on 15 years ago
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