Nice kit! It's maple cortex (a wrap). Looks like you have a 13"/14"/16" and a 22"(?) bass drum.

I'm not a cymbal expert, but someone will be around to help you with yoru inquiry.

do you want to sell that K? thanks

xD Thanks, edited the post to include the sizes. Someone else on a diff forum noted it was maple cortex wrap also, I guess since the wrap is lighter than the interior?

That's an old K zildjian istanbul. That's an Intermediate stamp (~early 60's).

what's the weight? can you post a profile picture?

[COLOR="DarkRed"]IT IS A GREAT, RARE CYMBAL.

That K, even with the crack at the hole and the rivets....is worth about $1500 if there's no other damage to it. Post a closeup of the rivets..they MAY be factory and not post-factory.

8 rivets on a K is just too many. If you wanna keep the cymbal and use it can carefully remove a few of them....I would say at least 4 of them....all of the sudden you will hear the beautiful qualities of the cymbal coming back.

Start by using masking tape on the top of the rivets, to keep them from moving...then listen to the cymbal. It's wonderful midranges and lows will start coming out with each rivet you dampen.

if you don't wanna keep it, then just leave all the rivets in and sell it. But...if you git the entire rig for a really good deal...you have just experienced something which cymbal afficionados DREAM about.....you inadvertently stumbled onto an old K !

If you are interested, there are a number of safe methods to remove some of that crud and patina if you want to. It's a judgment call...some folks do, some don't. But you gotta be careful what you use to do it.

That crack looks small...is it ? 1/8", 1/4" ? Keep an eye on it. get a magnifying glass, and mark it on the top and bottom w/ a sharpie marker...just a dot where it ends. Then look at it once in a while and see if the crack has migrated beyond the sharpie dot. This is a K...you almost gotta do this, IMHO.

Can you post a full-on of the whole cymbal ?[/COLOR]

Alright, can't get pics now but will when I get the chance. I'm almost positive the rivets and even sizziling holes are non-factory, as the quality of the rivets is not the greatest and the rivet holes are not evenly spaced. I'll put up more pics later today.

I have 4 of the rivets and another 4 around somewhere... wayyyy too clangy with all 8 and even with 4 still really aggressive metal on metal clang rather than nice warm shimmering (so right now it has no rivets). Not sure if I would risk taking out the patina and build-up, it's mostly on the underside anyway.

But yeah it was kind of random stumbling upon it.

The whole kit, without the A Custom in the pic but with DW 9500 hi hat stand, new throne, direct drive Intruder pedal, the 2 aforementioned cymbals, K Custom dark hats, 10" A custom splash and the new snare it was all was $475 haha.

wow.....Car Driving2

you have inadvertently committed highway robbery

Okay, got some pics. I have no way of currently accurately figuring out the weight in grams(how is that usually determined?) but I did a rough lil check on a scale and it came out to what equates to around 2000 grams... really light but not much of a surprise I guess.

The little crack is pretty much only 1/16th of an inch long.

Rivets

Cymbal underside

Overhead view

Close up, shows some of the uneven holes + a black mark

Thanks for all the help!

[COLOR="DarkRed"]OK...the rivet/hole thang isn't as bad as your previous post implied. It appears they were at least drilled in an "in-out-in-out" sorta pattern (i.e. rivet close to edge, rivet further back from edge, rivet close to edge, etc). So although the spacing isn't exactly equal all the way around, there is at least some symmetry and method.. to the madness...so visually, it's not all that apparent. I have seen much, much worse rivet jobs.

Those are pretty old-skool rivets there, the big heavy ones...I agree it wasn't factory...or perhaps the first 4 were and the second 4 were afterwards. But it was done a long time ago...

Regardless, rivet holes or not, that puppy is worth a goldmine and it's a real, real special cymbal. I bet is sounds sweet without the rivets.

That 1/16" crack...I agree, not a concern. IMHO, for 1/16", if it were mine I would take my dremel to that crack and make it disappear...leaving in its place a small, artificially-created keyhole. I would do this so I could sleep soundly and nevrer have to check up on that crack again. Keyholes and rivet holes often decrease the value of other cymbals...but nothing short of significant cracks and dents ever reduces the value of an old K. But I do realize that is a bit of an aggressive approach; and one which a lot of others would forego....

I would keep 'er....

unless, really, you are a purely rock player and have no use for a cymbal of it's dark/trashy/stick-y quality...in which case you would get $1.5G for it if you wanted to (eBay, probably...or here).[/COLOR]