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double pedal question

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Is there any double pedal out there that plays anything like a speed king? I have never owned one but have played double bass forever but I am now playing a single bass and would like to maybe try one.. thanks

Posted on 13 years ago
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Trick makes a pedal that is a compression spring pedal in a double pedal configuration. I'm not sure how much it would feel like a Speed King, if at all, but that's about the only one I know of on the market today that is a compression spring pedal like the Speed King.

Posted on 13 years ago
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The compression spring is a small part of the feel of that pedal. A huge part is the length of the "active" part of the footboard, or the part forward of the hinge.

The Speed King has a pretty short footboard compared to most other pedal designs, so the angle changes drastically over the length of the throw. When you compare that to a modern "longboard" design, which has a very short stroke in comparison, you get a radically different feel. Most other pedals (with a conventional, "modern"-style footboard) fall somewhere in-between on their feel.

The new Pearl Demon pedals have a convertible footboard which can be converted from a standard-length footboard to a longboard, but nothing as short as a Speed King. I've yet to play anything with a board so short, aside from "junior"-sized pedals.

Current gigging set:
Recent Ludwig Accent 13/16/18/26, (in Silver Sparkle), "updated" 70's Acrolite with cast batter hoop and Trick strainer/butt

Cymbals:
Zildjian K Custom Ride, Dream (Bliss and Contact) crashes and hats, and a Sabian Swish/China.

Other stuff:
60's Ludwig Champagne Sparkle "Traveler's Club Date", under construction. Click Here
70's Acrolite (under RE-construction)
Two 1960's mahogany 32" Ludwig bass drums with Imperial lugs.
Posted on 13 years ago
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I ordered a Trick Big Foot DBP a while back and still waiting for its arrival from back-order status.

Posted on 13 years ago
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They look really nice. Unfortunately, I've seen only one in a store, and most stores don't want you pulling out the tools and adjusting the pedal every which way just to see if it's something you can live with.

Same with the Pearl Demons. I've seen a couple, but right out of the box, they're not set to my liking, so I can't justify dropping the coin for something that expensive without knowing it'll work out.

Current gigging set:
Recent Ludwig Accent 13/16/18/26, (in Silver Sparkle), "updated" 70's Acrolite with cast batter hoop and Trick strainer/butt

Cymbals:
Zildjian K Custom Ride, Dream (Bliss and Contact) crashes and hats, and a Sabian Swish/China.

Other stuff:
60's Ludwig Champagne Sparkle "Traveler's Club Date", under construction. Click Here
70's Acrolite (under RE-construction)
Two 1960's mahogany 32" Ludwig bass drums with Imperial lugs.
Posted on 13 years ago
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From jonrpick

They look really nice. Unfortunately, I've seen only one in a store, and most stores don't want you pulling out the tools and adjusting the pedal every which way just to see if it's something you can live with.Same with the Pearl Demons. I've seen a couple, but right out of the box, they're not set to my liking, so I can't justify dropping the coin for something that expensive without knowing it'll work out.

I hear you there....sometime NO adjustments are better than INFINITE adjustments.....LoLoLoLo

BTW...I'm back to a Speed King again after a brief romance with a Ludwig Junior pedal, a Ludwig Universal Speedmaster pedal, and a Ghost pedal.

The Speed King always just feels so right...you know?

Posted on 13 years ago
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Hey... it's only money!

Posted on 13 years ago
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Hey thanks guys I am at a lose as to which one to try if any HMMMM maybe i will look for another 26 inch thermo maple ludwig bass drum or it's equivalent just to satisfy my urge to pound on two...

Posted on 13 years ago
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Yeah, the Speed King is it's OWN deal. The Pearl Eliminator has the ability to slide the entire footboard and hinge assembly forward or backward (3 positions, total), but nothing can make it feel like a Speed King.

Also, the Speed King is a "Direct Drive" pedal. That's a hot marketing buzz word right now, but the SK was doing it 60yrs ago. :)

Current gigging set:
Recent Ludwig Accent 13/16/18/26, (in Silver Sparkle), "updated" 70's Acrolite with cast batter hoop and Trick strainer/butt

Cymbals:
Zildjian K Custom Ride, Dream (Bliss and Contact) crashes and hats, and a Sabian Swish/China.

Other stuff:
60's Ludwig Champagne Sparkle "Traveler's Club Date", under construction. Click Here
70's Acrolite (under RE-construction)
Two 1960's mahogany 32" Ludwig bass drums with Imperial lugs.
Posted on 13 years ago
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That's one of the likeable features of the Trick is that it can become two single pedals (as can some of the others).

I did try the Tama IC, DW-9000, Pearl Demon, Axis, and Trick in store. I wish that I could offer a real world evaluation of the pedals too -- after living with them for a while -- rather than just the in-store impression.

I have read more than a few user review complaints about the DW linkage to want to steer clear of it. So I had it narrowed down to the Pearl Demon and Trick pedals. I think that Pearl is putting out some reallty outstanding hardware and almost went with a grand-slam of their equipment, but didn't choose their pedals (did get the S-2000 snare drum stand, D-2000 BR throne, and the H-2000 HH stand).

I'm transitioning from a pair of Caroline ASBA's, that I play pretty far back on... so I really like the long board pedals like Trick.

Posted on 13 years ago
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