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Definition of the Ludwig "Super Classic" outfit!

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Yes there is!

And just to clarify further...When we are asked to estimate a value for a vintage drum kit or individual drum (or component), there is really no way to make an exact evaluation because not everyone agrees on the criteria. You, don't use the same criteria as I do, so when you see a kit that's completely matched and catalog-correct, it might not be viewed the same way as someone such as myself, who relies on a different set of criteria.

I only point this out because there have been situations where someone has a kit for sale that may have an asking price that seems out of alignment with a given set of criteria from a given forum member. So, when someone asks a given price for a kit, etc. it might seem outrageous to one person, but it might be in complete alignment with someone else's estimate of value. One of the ways that higher or lower values can be formulated is in terms of "correctness". One of the ways that "correctness" can be determined is by catalog reference. It's a very common tool used by many vintage drum collectors.

"God is dead." -Nietzsche

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Posted on 2 years ago
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The reason for the option on adding the 14 is most likely for melodically enhanced, intonation of the 13 /14/16 it does sound sweet to bring the 14 into the roll

April 2nd 1969 scarfed pink champagne holly wood and 65/66 downbeat snare, and , supra same year very minty kit old pies
66/67 downbeat with canister
Super 400 small round knob
1967 super classic obp





once the brass ceases to glitter, and the drum looses its luster, and the stage remains dark, all you have left is the timbre of family.
Posted on 2 years ago
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Personally, of the ones I have owned, I have never been enamored with neither the 13" toms nor the 16" toms. Sonically, I prefer a wider divide among the toms. A more "ideal" spread for a working/recording kit, in my opinion would be 10/14/18/24BD (or 26BD)...unless it's a small combo jazz thing...in which case, I still love the 12/14/18BD...

...See? There I go customizing my own dream kit in my head, again...I guess it will never stop! :)

"God is dead." -Nietzsche

"Nietzsche is dead." -God
Posted on 2 years ago
#23
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12--14-20 Slingerland drum sets, 13-16-20 Slingerland and Leedy drum sets, 12-16-20 Rogers drum sets all with matching wood snares have always been my preference for four-piece outfits. For a five-piece set, I have always preferred a second mounted tom of the same size. Notice, I don't like larger bass drums.

No matter how far you push the envelope, it is still stationery.
Posted on 2 years ago
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I really think that it’s just a point of reference now.

Downbeat 12/14/20

Super classic 13/16/22

Hollywood 12/13/16/22

Jazzettet 12/14/18

Sure you could call them progressive or modern jazz.

Or buddy, Krupa, Shelly, name band, pro beat, headliner, Londoner etc. etc. etc.

But EVERYONE KNOWS 12/14/20 downbeat, 13/16/22 super classic.

I like Drums...
1963 Ludwig Downbeat Champagne Sparkle
1964 Leedy (Slingerland) Blue n Silver Duco
1964 Ludwig Club Date Sparkling Silver Pearl
1966 Ludwig Super Classic Sparkling Silver Pearl
1968 Gretsch round badge modern jazz orange stain
1972 Slingerland 85N Pop outfit Light Blue Pearl
1976 Ludwig Vistalite clear
1981 Gretsch SSB Gran Prix Rosewood
1987 Yamaha Turbo Tour Custom Mellow Yellow
1991 Pearl Export Ferrari Red
Posted on 2 years ago
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so many people are showing or selling there 60 Ludwig’s, and they’re making up colorsAnd I wonder were they come up with cinnamon color and abalone pearl for the 60 ‘s Ludwig

That is the craziest yet

April 2nd 1969 scarfed pink champagne holly wood and 65/66 downbeat snare, and , supra same year very minty kit old pies
66/67 downbeat with canister
Super 400 small round knob
1967 super classic obp





once the brass ceases to glitter, and the drum looses its luster, and the stage remains dark, all you have left is the timbre of family.
Posted on 2 years ago
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