Sorry Hoppy
I guess when I read this:
"I don't see what the problem is with a re-wrap on a vintage kit. While the orignal wrap will retain the "integrity" of the drum and enhance some perceived value, I don't think that the value should be significantly higher."
.....that I thought that you meant what I thought you wrote, not what you meant to say when you wrote what you wrote that I read and thought you meant what you wrote.
I'm glad it's all cleared up...... whew !!
Coffee Break2
[COLOR="Green"]I think Kev was just saying that there is good reason why an original, factory-wrapped kit in decent shape should have a significantly higher market value...that's all.Let's put it this way....if it's gonna be your player kit, and you don't intend on reselling it (or IF you resell, you don't care if it'll only fetch 50% of what an original factory-wrapped kit would fetch) then go for it and enjoy. But if down the road, your expectation would be to sell it for almost as good a dollar as an original wrapped one...you will have to revise your assumptions.[/COLOR]
Thanks Jaye
I understand everything you wrote.
I pretty sure, anyway......!!
Coffee Break2
I have to agree with Kevins in that you should probably disregard the cost of rewrap when assessing the value, but that is hard to do when you have $250 or more invested in the materials alone. After dabbling in this rewrap process I have decided that the only way to make $ on a rewrap is to have the customer come to me with an idea and a drumset, then just charge them accordingly. I've had little success with trying to make money by reselling snares that are rewrapped. The new wrap I think actually retracts some value even though the drum looks so much better. I guess the conclusion here is just let them sit on the shelf till you find a buyer looking for THAT particular drum. Of course if you ask Jammin' Sam he has a dramatically different take on this topic.Mallet Player2
How would you rewrap a kit with rivets in the shells.
Can the rivets be removed without damage?
Very interesting discussion fellas. I agree that re-wrapping almost always reduces the resale value of any drum kit. I have purchased some great sets that are just wonderful - for greatly reduced prices simply because they were re-wrapped. Especially in Japan- re-wrapped kits are almost ignored on the auction sites. Here is an example of an incredible kit- Pearl World Series re-wrapped- this kit is heavy as boulders, so solid, great sounding drums- a kit I would be happy to tour with (sound wise)- got it extremely cheap here
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How would you rewrap a kit with rivets in the shells.Can the rivets be removed without damage?
I'll post a picture later of a repair job I did. The rivets I pulled out w my fingernails. Usually those pop rivets aren't really "seated' in to the wood so they should come out pretty easy. If not you'll have to be patient and figure out a way to remove them w/out damaging the drum. Peel the wrap off, taking the usual precautions. Rivet holes won't go all the way through the shell so fill holes w/ a high quality epoxy wood filler. Sand down smooth. re-wrap shell. Remember if you are doing a whole kit to start with small drum and work your way up as you improve your techniques. Trick to re-wraps is take your time and fit the wrap as well as possible to the shell before you break out with the glue. :Snow Flake: There are dozens of technical posts here on the site if you have a more specific ? about any part of this process.
Here's a contentious question: what do you think about rewrapping a vintage kit in a non-original finish? Let's assume that the kit is in bad shape and really needs a re-wrap. It's going to be a player's kit. In your opinion, is it sacrilege to wrap it in a finish that wasn't offered by the maker? (e.g. glass glitter on a Ludwig set; onyx on a Gretsch; etc.)You can probably tell my stance by glancing at my signature, but I'm curious to hear what everyone thinks.
When it comes to re-wraps, you can look at it two ways. 1)wrap it in whatever color you chose if you plan to keep the kit. 2)wrap it in an original color if you think you may sell it.
When it comes to re-wraps, you can look at it two ways. 1)wrap it in whatever color you chose if you plan to keep the kit. 2)wrap it in an original color if you think you may sell it.
Agreed 100%, but then there's the instance when you've re-wrapped(or altered and much later on decide to sell. So think long and hard when choosing the material because once you've altered it you can't go back. I have a set of tubs that were all sanded down 2 months ago and I'm still contemplating my re-wrap design! It's really worth researching the finishes the line of drums were offered in originally. If you have a respect for integrity & tradition then play it safe. Storm Trooper
The problem for me is that I really dig a lot of the old wraps. I have some orphan shells that I have had for over three years, waiting, because I can't make up my mind!
