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1960's Star

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Posted on 14 years ago
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There are some unknowns in this equation. I will say that you need to look the kit over carefully due to the wrap. Cymbals are a wild card. Neat set.

Posted on 14 years ago
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That is a correct kit, Apollo and Polaris, from the same distributor, in the late 60s and early 70s used these wraps..Star wrap as see here:

http://www.vintagedrumguide.com/japanese_drums/catalog_apollo-2.htm

Same as sll the rest, somewhere around 100 or so, whatever you can get them to deal on. 500 is steep, Kelly...just way over the top. The wrap is correct though.

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Posted on 14 years ago
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Around 1967 STAR started with those wraps. This one is called 'Gold Eddy Satin Flame'. Nice find, as the snare is matching. But almost US-$ 500 is too much.

Pricewise I agree with Jonnistix.

Cymbals are a wild card, as mcjnic states. According to the general condition and type of this drumset, I don't believe that the hereto enclosed Meinl's are of big value.

Ralf

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Posted on 13 years ago
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I wasn't questioning the correctness of the wrap. I was stating he should look the kit over BECAUSE it was this wrap. They don't age well. They get scratches and cracks and really need to be seen in person prior to purchase. Look the kit over for spider cracks that can hide. That's what I meant. Just didn't feel like typing all that 'cause most all of us are familiar with these facts.

Posted on 13 years ago
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I looked at those,not up close,but felt the price was way out of line,rare wrap or not.It looks like a 20,13,16,which is odd to me,but popular for the time,and it looks like either the tom or the badge is upside down...careful on this one.

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Posted on 13 years ago
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I haven't heard back from the seller.

It looks like Star in this case copied the Sonor tear-drop lugs on the toms and the bass. I have seen lots of Slingerland copy in MIJ drums but not Sonor tear drop?? Is this what Star used exclusively as a copy?

-kellyj

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"It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing..."
Posted on 13 years ago
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From kellyj

I haven't heard back from the seller.It looks like Star in this case copied the Sonor tear-drop lugs on the toms and the bass. I have seen lots of Slingerland copy in MIJ drums but not Sonor tear drop?? Is this what Star used exclusively as a copy?-kellyj

No sir. This is what they called Type "B" lugs, the Sound King being Type "A" lugs. My COS snare has these as does my newest rebuilt blue sparkle 8 lugger. They used these for Apollo and other stencils as well. This is a nice kit, but that is too much, IMHO....As it is a Star, look over the shells carefully, and remember to remind him how close to Slingerland and even Rogers prices he is. You can buy decent set of Slings for not much more. Even a late 7-s Rogers is in this range. I love them, but the market is what it is. And they are satin flame....the wrap tends to well, you know what happens to it over the years.

"Ignorance may be overcome through education. Stupidity, however, is a lifelong endeavor." So, educate me, I don't likes bein' ignant...
"I enjoy restoring 60s Japanese "stencil" drums...I can actually afford them..."I rescue the worst of the old valueless drums for disadvantaged Children and gladly accept donations of parts, pieces and orphans, No cockroaches, please...
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Posted on 13 years ago
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Obviously they're on a fishing expedition. But if they were cleaned up and presented in an "ergonomically correct" fashion, they might get above 50% of that price, maybe even $400? To a truly salivating buyer?

The question is, is the satin flame wrap fairly clean under that dust. If it is all cracked up and such, price dives down, but if it is well-preserved, and free of scratches or too much spider cracks, then, it may be a rare example of a rare wrap that isn't priced too far off.

Posted on 13 years ago
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From Pounder

Obviously they're on a fishing expedition. But if they were cleaned up and presented in an "ergonomically correct" fashion, they might get above 50% of that price, maybe even $400? To a truly salivating buyer?

I have to agree, you can probably get close to your asking price if the set was well presented.

Posted on 13 years ago
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