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looking to sell flat based ludwig hardware, whats it worth?

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From drumbum3131

I'd love to disagree...the last four model 1400 stands I have purchased have come from guys who know their vintage drum gear! One being a local Ludwig collector who sold me two for $65 each the other two being from a music store called starving musician for $45 each. By the way these things are mint!(And the rarer ringo version). Thats great if you would like to disagree...but the last couple wfl snare stands I've seen can't even sell in the $15-$25 range. Also the last two wfl model 1121-3 Hi-Hat stands have sold for $27 and $40. By the way Kevin aren't you the guy who was trying to sell a red top Ludwig seat for [COLOR="Red"]$150[/COLOR] with a tear in it?? What did you end up getting?And a listing of one of the sets this Ludwig collector I got my stands from is below...he KNOWS vintage Ludwig and all I collect is vintage Ludwig gear!(You would think I have a clue)http://cgi.ebay.com/1969-Ludwig-5x14-Supraphonic-Snare-Drum-/280521395288?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item415060cc58#ht_500wt_920And I think this is pretty honest!!!"You might be able to get even more for the cymbal stands...those are pretty hot right now."

Gee Drumbum, I picked up my late 60s model 400 in similar condition for a heck of a lot less than the $399 that cat is asking....

You do realize that auction is for the SNARE ONLY, .......don't you ?.......:)

And, this is the text from my original For Sale thread from 11/17/09 and a link:

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"Ludwig Oval Drum Throne [COLOR="Red"]$100[/COLOR] plus shipping

Very good condition, one 1/4 inch crack in upholstry

No rust, adjusts properly, both small rubber feet are split,

big foot missing, seat wobbles (they all do)"

The throne didn't sell for $100, although two thrones like mine had just sold on eBay.... one had an undamaged seat for $150 and one with more damage to the seat than mine for $125.

I lowered the price to [COLOR="Red"]$75[/COLOR] and added it to another For Sale thread, which is the thread you responded to on 12/30/09.

(Sorry, but the throne part of the list is deleted, I took it out after it sold.... you can see where I edited the thread in May.)

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I believe you PMd me at that point, asking if I would offer free shipping with the $75 price, and I declined....... I should have taken you up on that, cause it sold for only [COLOR="Red"]$52[/COLOR] plus shipping on eBay a little later on.

I do recall sending you a courtesy PM on the last day of the auction since you had showed an interest in it, giving you a heads up that it appeared the throne might sell for even less than you had offered.... but I guess you missed it..... bummer for you, I guess.

So, yep, the market told me that a Ludwig Script throne with a 1/4 inch tear in the seat on that day was worth $52 plus shipping.... not the $100 or $75 I thought it was, even though a throne with a larger tear had just sold for $125.

And, yep, Drumbum, this thread tells me that your recollection is wrong today about the price I listed the throne for.

I admire your enthusiasm and fervor in obtaining the lowest price possible for everything you buy. But the prices you say you pay seem to always be far below the going rate.

And this typically comes up when someone has something to sell around here, and is asking for an estimate on their gear. I don't ever recall when you have quoted a really low estimate on the value of an item, that anyone has corroborated it with a similar price.

Why is that, anyway?

Kevin
Posted on 14 years ago
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I don't care to fight...I'm sure your a great guy and I can only hope my message before this didn't come across as if I was mad. But I personally feel people are trying for way to high of prices in this poor economy.

I buy all my drums for a fraction of what they are worth (I guess you could say I know how to find deals) or I am just a very young guy who knows how to talk people down...$350 for SBP Super classic with COB Supra....$500 for WMP Super Classic with matching 59 Super Classic Snare....$500 for pre-serial red Sparkle Hollywood with matching snare.( I haven't included all the extras that have some with these sets) ohhh and the deal I am chasing right now mid-60's Blue Sparkle Super Classic for $500.

You could say I gave this man a low estimate...but all of my "what are they worth" answers are realistic prices that I have seen gear sell for, without the seller waiting months for someone to buy it.

Mind you I buy my gear low and sell it low... I know what it is like to really want something and just not be able to justify spending the money.

Please know I am fine with you and I was just giving my opinion on a good price...I guess you could say I just don't like being told I am wrong and I pitty the fool who tells me I am!!!Mister TMister TMister T hahahah Have a great rest of your day


Recent Purchases
-1961 SBP Pioneer Snare Drum
-1962 SBP Super Classic w/ Matching COB Supra

Working On
-1963 Red Sparkle Hollywood w/ matching Super Classic Snare

Recently Completed
-1964 WMP Super Classic
Posted on 14 years ago
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From drumbum3131

I don't care to fight...I'm sure your a great guy and I can only hope my message before this didn't come across as if I was mad. But I personally feel people are trying for way to high of prices in this poor economy. I buy all my drums for a fraction of what they are worth (I guess you could say I know how to find deals) or I am just a very young guy who knows how to talk people down...$350 for SBP Super classic with COB Supra....$500 for WMP Super Classic with matching 59 Super Classic Snare....$500 for pre-serial red Sparkle Hollywood with matching snare.( I haven't included all the extras that have some with these sets) ohhh and the deal I am chasing right now mid-60's Blue Sparkle Super Classic for $500. You could say I gave this man a low estimate...but all of my "what are they worth" answers are realistic prices that I have seen gear sell for, without the seller waiting months for someone to buy it.Mind you I buy my gear low and sell it low... I know what it is like to really want something and just not be able to justify spending the money.Please know I am fine with you and I was just giving my opinion on a good price...I guess you could say I just don't like being told I am wrong and I pitty the fool who tells me I am!!!Mister TMister TMister T hahahah Have a great rest of your day

The part of your post directed at me came across exactly the way you meant it to come across...

Like I was trying to rip somebody off !!

By the way Kevin aren't you the guy who was trying to sell a red top Ludwig seat for $150 with a tear in it?? What did you end up getting?

I haven't read any acknowledgment from you that you quoted an inaccurate price... it was never listed at $150... it started at $100, and was lowered to $75 later on.

You're also leaving out the fact that the crack was just 1/4 inch.... clearly stated in my description. When you leave that out, you are leading someone to imagine a terrible rip or tear, not the very small crack of 1/4 inch.

Please get your facts straight before you point any of your digits at me.

Thank you

I'm done with this tripe..........

Kevin
Posted on 14 years ago
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Can someone close this thread? I just see this thing getting worst and although I'm young, I really can careless to waste my time in a little computer fight. Your 100% correct Kevin...lets end it with that and let this poor man sell his stands!


Recent Purchases
-1961 SBP Pioneer Snare Drum
-1962 SBP Super Classic w/ Matching COB Supra

Working On
-1963 Red Sparkle Hollywood w/ matching Super Classic Snare

Recently Completed
-1964 WMP Super Classic
Posted on 14 years ago
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Drumbum

The stands are for sale... in a For Sale thread.....

You attempted to smear my rep on this Forum, and I am not happy with that at all !!

Is an apology too much to ask from you?

You said I'm right, but that's not an apology.

Be a man, stand up and say you're sorry, and I'll let it go.

Kevin
Posted on 14 years ago
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you guys are ridiculous.

Posted on 14 years ago
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From roundbadgedude

you guys are ridiculous.

Thanks for your opinion.

Yep, there are some ridiculous aspects to this thread.

Drumbum's estimate on the value of your stands.

And, his bringing an inaccurate statement about a sale of mine as a personal jab at me.

As for my reaction to the jab, I brought up the facts, and he couldn't address them with any of his own. I asked for an apology, and got none.

Perhaps it was ridiculous for me to think I'd actually get an apology. I'll plead guilty to that !......:)

Kevin
Posted on 14 years ago
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drumbum keeps sending me private messages offering me $35 for my hi hat stand :P

Posted on 14 years ago
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From roundbadgedude

drumbum keeps sending me private messages offering me $35 for my hi hat stand :P

Hence My best friend Kevins reply to him, I personally know Kevins he's a neighbor and and a hell of a guy!! Drumbum3131 make up your own mind! remember he said he can find them all day cheap??? WELL???

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 14 years ago
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From roundbadgedude

drumbum keeps sending me private messages offering me $35 for my hi hat stand :P

So the motive is finally publicly revealed.

This is exactly what I have suspected for over a year...

Thanks for sharing that.

I didn't want to flat out make any accusations about why the cat comes in with these very low valuations, and never has any back up for them.

But the tactic is now apparent for anyone who cares to see.

Thanks again.

Kevin
Posted on 14 years ago
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