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Pair of Zildjian 20 in. sizzle rides, dates?

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Got a A and a K zildjian sizzle ride and need help on the dates if possible. As you can see the K has a crack that I had to drill to stop. I didn't notice any change in sound. The A was drilled for the sizzles at a music store. The K weights approx. 1787 gm. and the A is 2156 gm. I am going to sell these BTW so any valuation would be helpful.

Many thanks

Correction: The K was drilled at a music store for the sizzles after the crack occured. the A is factory drilled.

Posted on 14 years ago
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list without reserve and see the result

Posted on 14 years ago
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From OkieBob

Got a A and a K zildjian sizzle ride and need help on the dates if possible. As you can see the K has a crack that I had to drill to stop. I didn't notice any change in sound. The A was drilled for the sizzles at a music store. The K weights approx. 1787 gm. and the A is 2156 gm. I am going to sell these BTW so any valuation would be helpful. Many thanks

You didn't give us the size of the A stamp, but it appears to be a large stamp from the 1950's

The K is a bit harder because I can't make out the position and size of the star over the moon. If the star is very tiny, than its likely to be what Drumaholic referred to as an intermediate stamp from the late 50's thru mid 60's. If that star is larger it could be the Older or Newer New Stamps which ranges from the late 60's thru the late '70s. Drumaholic who developed these guidlines has reevaluated and altered some of the tihem. My guesses are based on the original scale. Current thinking may be a llttle off.

Mark
BosLover
Posted on 14 years ago
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How much do yo want for the 'K'?

[email]htiek0@yahoo.com[/email]

Keith Karnaky

Posted on 14 years ago
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From BosLover

You didn't give us the size of the A stamp, but it appears to be a large stamp from the 1950'sThe K is a bit harder because I can't make out the position and size of the star over the moon. If the star is very tiny, than its likely to be what Drumaholic referred to as an intermediate stamp from the late 50's thru mid 60's. If that star is larger it could be the Older or Newer New Stamps which ranges from the late 60's thru the late '70s. Drumaholic who developed these guidlines has reevaluated and altered some of the tihem. My guesses are based on the original scale. Current thinking may be a llttle off.

Ok the A is about 1 3/4 in in height, if that's any help. I don't know the distinction between a tiny star and a larger one. I just haven't seen enough to compare. These seem to be a tough subject to get a good photo. I'll try some more to see if I can improve.

Thanks.

Posted on 14 years ago
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From Karnaky

How much do yo want for the 'K'? [email]htiek0@yahoo.com[/email]Keith Karnaky

Thanks for your interest. I've been out of drumming since the mid 70s, so I'm just trying to get a "fair market value" to list, for starters. I can get back to you later, if that's OK.

Posted on 14 years ago
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From OkieBob

Ok the A is about 1 3/4 in in height, if that's any help. I don't know the distinction between a tiny star and a larger one. I just haven't seen enough to compare. These seem to be a tough subject to get a good photo. I'll try some more to see if I can improve.Thanks.

In the the older and newer new K stamp, the star above the moon is as large or slighter larger than the space within the moon. In the earlier intermediate stamp, the star is in the same location but is much smaller than the space within the moon.

The A appears to be a '50s cymbals.

Mark
BosLover
Posted on 14 years ago
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Many thanks for the help. It looks like from your description, with the tiny star, late 50s to mid 60s. The star does appear to be able to fit inside the moon. Note the crack and later installed rivets. The weight is about 1787 gm. so it is thin for the diameter? Nice sound on this one to my ears, anyone have an estimate of market worth with the crack?

Posted on 14 years ago
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From OkieBob

Many thanks for the help. It looks like from your description, with the tiny star, late 50s to mid 60s. The star does appear to be able to fit inside the moon. Note the crack and later installed rivets. The weight is about 1787 gm. so it is thin for the diameter? Nice sound on this one to my ears, anyone have an estimate of market worth with the crack?

With the clearer picture, it definitely looks like the Intermediate stamp to me, Circa 1959-1966. Drumaholic has updated the scale a bit and added new stamps I believe, but to the best of my knowledge this new scale has not been published for the general public. As a result, the 1959-1966 might not accurate any more. Perhaps he will chime in with a definitive opinion.

Was it a 20"? If so 1787 is on the medium thin side I would guess.

Mark
BosLover
Posted on 14 years ago
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The A. is a large stamp circa 1955, and is probably worth around $300 - 350. The K. is an intermediate stamp 1959 - 1963. Because of that crack on this cymbal, a dollar value for thos one is hard to quantify.

Posted on 14 years ago
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