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Ludwig Black Panther

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Thanks man,

Here in west texas the wind and dust blows regularly. Anyhing oily will attract dust, thus making the dressed item look brown. The dye on the black panters make them totally black again. No need for vinyl dressing.

1960's SONOR 12-16-20-14 blue slate pearl
1968 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14Sky blue P
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14BlueVistalite
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-(14 impostor)BlackPanther "SOLD"
1964 Ludwig Oyster Black Pearl 22-12-13-16-14Supra "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14 Citrus Mod "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG Sexto-Plus 8-1 0-12-13-14-15-16-20-20-14 Silver Sparkle
60's Majestic Delux 12-13-16-22-14 red pearl
2009 Homemade Kids 8-10-13-16-12 Orange Sparkle
24 kits, 80 Snares, 65 Cymbals
Don't tell my wife!
Posted on 14 years ago
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When I got the BP's there were 10 bd claws missing. I had a few n my parts, thought I had more, but decided to buy all new. The new ones are wider than the originals. I stopped by one of my fave pawn shops today and bought a 16" 1st act bass drum for $10. I mainly got it for the hardware on it. the bass drum legs are exactly like one I need for my majestic bass drum. As I was driving down the road looking at the bass drum claws, exactly like the ones I bought for my black Panthers, I had an Epiphany, I put those original Ludwig Bass Drum Claws on the kids drum kit I built about a yr ago. I just got home and, sure enough, There they are, on the kids drums bass drum, back in the grandkids room. Doah! :confused:

Now I have plenty of oem luddy claws to put on my Black panthers. That means I have to R&R all the heads on both bass drums and do some more polishing. CryBaby

1960's SONOR 12-16-20-14 blue slate pearl
1968 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14Sky blue P
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14BlueVistalite
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-(14 impostor)BlackPanther "SOLD"
1964 Ludwig Oyster Black Pearl 22-12-13-16-14Supra "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14 Citrus Mod "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG Sexto-Plus 8-1 0-12-13-14-15-16-20-20-14 Silver Sparkle
60's Majestic Delux 12-13-16-22-14 red pearl
2009 Homemade Kids 8-10-13-16-12 Orange Sparkle
24 kits, 80 Snares, 65 Cymbals
Don't tell my wife!
Posted on 14 years ago
#112
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Poppy

Im starting the resto of my Black Panther Keystone badge set. (May 20 1969)

Exactly how you did the dye coloring on yours? just boiling water mixed with the dye and then aplying with a piece of fabric? Please let me know

Thanks!

Vin

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Posted on 14 years ago
#113
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I used SEM Color Coat. It comes in a spray can. The name of the color I used is called landau Black. There are 3 different blacks with different sheens. I picked the medium sheen. Semi gloss i guess. This product is a flexible coating. Changes or renews color on most flexible and rigid plastics, carpet, Vinyl, and Velour. I have been using this product for decades at my Auto Trim Shop. It is a very good product. It is usually sold at professional automotive paint store. All of my auto upholstery suppliers sell it. The trick is to make sure what ever your dyeing is clean and no oily substances on it. Make sure there is absolutely Amour all or any other vinyl dressing residue on it. I used spray away glass cleaner and a scrub brush, then wiped it with a wet bar towel, using purified water. I rinsed it with a wet towel twice, using two different towels, making sure it was thoroughly rinsed. Our water here has a lot of mineral deposits. The mineral deposits would also leave a residue. I didn't remove the badges, just taped em off real good. There were some spots on the shells that were whitish looking, and a few scuff marks. Probably from being banged around. This dye eliminated all of these. Vinyl dressing would temporarily hide these spots, but when the dressing dries up the spots would come back. This dye completly restores the color.

1960's SONOR 12-16-20-14 blue slate pearl
1968 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14Sky blue P
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14BlueVistalite
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-(14 impostor)BlackPanther "SOLD"
1964 Ludwig Oyster Black Pearl 22-12-13-16-14Supra "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14 Citrus Mod "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG Sexto-Plus 8-1 0-12-13-14-15-16-20-20-14 Silver Sparkle
60's Majestic Delux 12-13-16-22-14 red pearl
2009 Homemade Kids 8-10-13-16-12 Orange Sparkle
24 kits, 80 Snares, 65 Cymbals
Don't tell my wife!
Posted on 14 years ago
#114
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From poppy79424

Thanks man,Here in west texas the wind and dust blows regularly. Anyhing oily will attract dust, thus making the dressed item look brown. The dye on the black panters make them totally black again. No need for vinyl dressing.

Oh, I didnt leave any oil on the finish at all! I removed all the excess. I tested the "dust attraction" leaving the floor tom a whole day on my back yard and it didnt attract any dust. The Oil restores the finish but you need to deeply remove it afterwards.

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Posted on 14 years ago
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From poppy79424

Ok, I have 20 lugs polished. Enough for the bass drum. As I was polishing the same thought kept coming into my mind "Why in the *@&K did ludwig have to put all these lil grooves in thier lugs?" Out of 20 lugs so far, I have 3#1's, 9#2's, 4#3's, and 4#4's. I have 28 to go.

For those who do a lot of lug polishing by hand, here is a the way I have been polishing lugs for the past few years. It is so much faster and very effective. I can polish 30 lugs in 25 minutes or less. The pumice I use will not scratch the chrome at all. I used a test lug when I first started doing this and tried to damage the lug...but could not. A lathe similar to this one (which is a Dental lathe) can bought at Harbor freight at a fairly good price. I think they also sell the rag wheels. The pumice is very cheap and can be bought on ebay.

BTW....the Black Panther kit is looking great!

http://www.youtube.com/user/drumsjinx#p/u/9/2HGOAbBVgrI

http://www.youtube.com/user/drumsjinx#p/u/8/PNtYRud0Spg

"Blaemire Archaeologist"
Posted on 14 years ago
#116
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Lug polishing is the most tedious part of a complete restoration to me. Is that pumice anything like ***eler's rouge ?

From Drumjinx

For those who do a lot of lug polishing by hand, here is a the way I have been polishing lugs for the past few years. It is so much faster and very effective. I can polish 30 lugs in 25 minutes or less. The pumice I use will not scratch the chrome at all. I used a test lug when I first started doing this and tried to damage the lug...but could not. A lathe similar to this one (which is a Dental lathe) can bought at Harbor freight at a fairly good price. I think they also sell the rag wheels. The pumice is very cheap and can be bought on ebay.BTW....the Black Panther kit is looking great!http://www.youtube.com/user/drumsjinx#p/u/9/2HGOAbBVgrIhttp://www.youtube.com/user/drumsjinx#p/u/8/PNtYRud0Spg

1960's SONOR 12-16-20-14 blue slate pearl
1968 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14Sky blue P
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14BlueVistalite
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-(14 impostor)BlackPanther "SOLD"
1964 Ludwig Oyster Black Pearl 22-12-13-16-14Supra "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14 Citrus Mod "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG Sexto-Plus 8-1 0-12-13-14-15-16-20-20-14 Silver Sparkle
60's Majestic Delux 12-13-16-22-14 red pearl
2009 Homemade Kids 8-10-13-16-12 Orange Sparkle
24 kits, 80 Snares, 65 Cymbals
Don't tell my wife!
Posted on 14 years ago
#117
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I said black panthers were cheap to Ludwig-dude. Well here is one that can most likely be had under $500.

http://denver.craigslist.org/msg/1596555294.html


Recent Purchases
-1961 SBP Pioneer Snare Drum
-1962 SBP Super Classic w/ Matching COB Supra

Working On
-1963 Red Sparkle Hollywood w/ matching Super Classic Snare

Recently Completed
-1964 WMP Super Classic
Posted on 14 years ago
#118
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New bass drum spurs (not good) and a acrolite snare($100 tops) . Looks like a 18" FT So its a 22" bass 12" and 18" toms. it might fetch more on ebay.

I wouldnt take $500 for mine. Like LD has said, "They are only worth what someone is willing to pay." I bet the floor tom would get $4-$500 on ebay.

1960's SONOR 12-16-20-14 blue slate pearl
1968 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14Sky blue P
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14BlueVistalite
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-(14 impostor)BlackPanther "SOLD"
1964 Ludwig Oyster Black Pearl 22-12-13-16-14Supra "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14 Citrus Mod "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG Sexto-Plus 8-1 0-12-13-14-15-16-20-20-14 Silver Sparkle
60's Majestic Delux 12-13-16-22-14 red pearl
2009 Homemade Kids 8-10-13-16-12 Orange Sparkle
24 kits, 80 Snares, 65 Cymbals
Don't tell my wife!
Posted on 14 years ago
#119
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i bet that floor might hit $300. Really rare size...and I think Ludwig-Dude is looking for an 18 inch floor-tom.

From poppy79424

New bass drum spurs (not good) and a acrolite snare($100 tops) . Looks like a 18" FT So its a 22" bass 12" and 18" toms. it might fetch more on ebay. I wouldnt take $500 for mine. Like LD has said, "They are only worth what someone is willing to pay." I bet the floor tom would get $4-$500 on ebay.


Recent Purchases
-1961 SBP Pioneer Snare Drum
-1962 SBP Super Classic w/ Matching COB Supra

Working On
-1963 Red Sparkle Hollywood w/ matching Super Classic Snare

Recently Completed
-1964 WMP Super Classic
Posted on 14 years ago
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