THIS IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING! Thank you! Someone else with common sense and reason.......finally! Bowing

[COLOR="Purple"]Hehehe - yes - the intent of your Q has always been quite clear - and valid to boot - FYl my buddy buried his newish Avedis for 4 weeks then unearthed it & gave it a lght washing with dish soap to remove the dirt- it DlD seem to calm the sound down a bit[/COLOR]

I've done this for pretty much every new cymbal I've ever purchased. It is most effective at loosening up the tension. I learned this years and years and years and years ago when I was but a tatertot bashing away. I honestly don't remember who it was, but someone in the cymbal business (a manufacturing rep at a store maybe) was watching me play. I was maybe eight at the time and had been playing for almost six years. He was evidently impressed (or more likely bored) and took time to explain to me (a child) about how to break in a new cymbal. I have done this ever since. Excellent results.

I would still love to see this experiment actually completed. There are so many wives tales (and you know how they can talk!) about this that it would be great to have good experimental data to draw upon.

I'm going to try out your tip tomorrow, sounds fun to do.

I liked the cymbal when I purchased it (psst, I still like the cymbal), it was during the recording process that I found it was not as warm as my other cymbals. But, I'm comparing that cymbal to much older and more played cymbals. I think the sound qualities that I like about the cymbal for live playing might hurt it a little during the recording process. It's a very small detail, that I think is getting in the way of what I'm really looking for..

actual experience, pro or con, on the myth/story of burying a cymbal to warm it up.

On a side note, I'm cool with my 4yr old playing my drums, he's crazy good. He will replace me in my band in a couple of years, it's very strange. He has his own drums and plays the whole kit, uses dynamics, plays beats in time, it's nuts. He likes to "get his soundz", his words. He turns 4 at the end of the month and I'm going to start him on lessons. He plays my gear better than me anyway...

Why are you such a crabass? Actually a few people have said this. I can't believe I'm writing this AGAIN. The cymbal is fine, the recording process has pointed out that it's not as warm as some of my older cymbals. Not a big deal, I like the cymbal for a live situation. The situation triggered the burying the cymbal myth/story, I was wondering if anyone had any actual experience, pro or con.

[SIZE="5"]IT's NOT ABOUT THE CYMBAL[/SIZE]

[SIZE="7"]IT'S ABOUT THE MYTH/STORY![/SIZE]

AGAIN, you are missing the point. NO ONE HAS ACTUALLY DONE THIS! IT'S A MYTH! THERE ARE NO PROS ONLY CONS.

If I was about to do something dumb like this and a good 85% of the people responded to the thread, including the few that repeatedly recommended NOT doing it, said its not a good idea, I'm pretty sure I would get the hint and take their advice.

You on the other hand want to keep pushing the issue and go ahead and try it anyway. If you want to bury a perfectly good cymbal to find out nothing has happened to it sonically thats your decision.

Now, I'm gonna go and CLEAN my K's up......all this talk of burying perfectly good cymbals has made me think I need to clean mine even more.....

Soap BoxDOHDOHDOH

BTW, this myth was started by Elvin Jones YEARS AGO when he was asked in an interview how he got such a great sound out of his cymbals. He said to the rather clueless interviewer that he gets them from the factory and burys them out in the backyard for five years then goes and digs them up after they have aged nicely. The guy believed him and printed the rather tounge-in-cheek remark. And since then we have people claiming to have tried burying a cymbal to see if there was any truth to it.

Now I know Sabian did this recently, but HONESTLY, DOES ANYONE REALLY THINK IT IS ANYTHING MORE THAN A MARKETING PLOY? "Buy this recently unearthed (literally) cymbal"........DOH

I have a feeling you DO NOT read what I'm writing. One person on this thread, who had a friend do it, said not to do it. One person, who had a friend do it, said it worked out. Is that a huge sample? In YOUR head, I'm all gung ho and doing this no matter what. I need more information, pro or con. Is that "pushing the issue"? Come on! Actually, I'm leaning not to do it..the cymbal sounds real good, it just needs to be played more. I'm going to try Caddywumpus' cymbal tip tomorrow, and over the next month my kid and I will play the crud out of it.

I thought this site was designed to exchange ideas and learn. Where else can I ask this question and actually have some intelligent answers come my way? Really? I do not understand the meanspirited attitudes and the jerky answers by people WHO HAVE NO EXPERIENCE IN THE MATTER! It's very strange. I'm still glad I asked my question, I have gained some insite on my cymbal, and that's a cool. Still, if anyone has buried a cymbal, pro or con, tell your story.

Hey SuperB,

I just watched that Sabian video again. I gotta tell ya...it's bunk. The cymbal would need WAY more than 8 months or a year to have an appreciable change.

Mark Love did a little vid of putting a vault cymbal next to a buried cymbal and showing the "difference". You can't do that. You need to vid the cymbal BEFORE you put it in the ground and then vid it AFTER you dig it up. I have no idea what he was trying to prove. Ordinarily I like the guy, but this one really bugged me. He used to hand select my cymbals when I endorsed Sabian. Nice guy, but I believe he sold out on this one.

Unless you want to devote about ten years to this, I would pass. I don't believe anyone has ever put that much time into this process. Even Sabian bailed after only eight months or so. Wimps.

I am sincere when I mention that I would love to see this done. If you ever do decide to do this, please contact me. I would love to sideline it. I'm just enough of a Science geek to get excited at the prospect.

I can't add any personal experience to your question...other than the bit about breaking in a new cymbal. Sorry.

I was thinking the same thing when I watched the video. There was no before or after of the two cymbals that they picked. That wasn't science! I'm with you, the longer in the ground, the better (in theory) for the cymbal. I doubt I'm up for the 5 year plan. (I hope I'm still on the planet in 5 years!) I thought I could do it for a month, maybe a year. I need to get a free cymbal and do it for science. I'm going to ask some of my friends if they have a cymbal that they hate, because, it's too harsh. Make a trade, and plop it in the ground for a couple of years. Thanks for being cool mcjnic.