(I'd freakin' Keep them) Good Luck with them See all my edits above )

one more. 1st album with 24" big drums was "The Old Bum's Rush".

1973.

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Looks like you got a nice kit for a nice price!! Congrats!!

Cheers

I've seen enough sets from this era with natural maple bass drum hoops to believe that was standard on stained drums for at least a while. The mounted toms being the normal depths is a big plus in my book, The majority of 80s Gretsch sets were bought with Power depth toms, which are somewhat out of fashion these days. 24" Gretsch basses are killer for rock drumming. The 18" floor tom is a bit out of place with 12 & 13" mounted toms. A 16" would be the "normal" size to couple with those. A 16 probably wouldn't be that hard to find though. Rosewood was a very popular color.

I know that if these had been local to me for a few hundred I'd have been very excited to snag them, primarily due to the standard sized mounted toms, which, as I mentioned, seem somewhat uncommon.

Can't add much except to say , it's a beautiful kit and you got a killer deal on them!

A few hundred bucks? You can hardly find a decent stencil kit for a few hundred bucks these days. If I may ask, where did you find them?

Thanks, all – I really appreciate the insights. I typically play one up and two down, with either a 10 or a 12 up and 14/16 down. Maybe I can find a 16-inch floor tom to go with this kit and put it to use. But considering I have nine or 10 sets already, I may just flip it and keep shopping.

Regarding where I found it? This was a Goodwill purchase in Bakersfield, CA. I paid $496. My standard operating procedure is to buy kits where I can sell hardware and extras and keep the drums for free. This kit came with pedals, stands, and throne that will get me close. The main problem with this strategy is that I’m running out of storage space!

My main playing sets are a late 90s Pearl Masters Custom Maple and a Yamaha Birch Custom Absolute.

I have two drop G kits both in black nitron so I can mix & match.

1st kit is 8/10 concert toms/ 12/16/22

2nd kit is 24/13/14/18

Like you I also play 1up/ 2 down.

So I either play 22/12/16/18 or 24/13/16/18.

I never use the other toms but they are part of the original kits so I keep them.

Great sounding drums!

Please be careful when citing the Gretsch Book about serial numbers. The information in there comes from my work with serial number based dating. Remember that the range of serial numbers is an approximation. The 11,000 drums attributed to that year was derived by evenly spreading out the serial numbers which were known to have been used over a number of years. It is an educated guess, but it is not that precise. These are not official production numbers from Gretsch.

I trust you. have to trust somebody. and no one's done as much as you- and- I double check- with my own thoughts and- I still trust---Your figures are close Enough for Jazz.

(I understand you always wanting to add a disclaimer but in the overall scheme of things 'Darn Close" wins.

(being there are and will never be any official figures from Gretsch ever)

here's what I wanted to look into today. The Hex Heads on this set:

You'd initially think it'd be Round Head right.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1960s-Gretsch-Progressive-Jazz-Aqua-Satin-Flame-Drum-Kit/283636270864?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

then you see the pic inside the bass. With the tag stating 93757. Look in your book and..BOOM 1967...and you state (for (the 60s) the first time) R/H meaning it could be either. SO there YOU ARE CORRECT in my mind..

See? Give your self some credit (I do! Lol

(Round Badge transition year into Hex Head screws- you nail it (no pun)

That's at the least a transition (still New York?) (yes I'd say..) 67 Round Badge set. Close enough (info) for jazz..

if haven't already everyone should buy these (one or the other) (or both) or one) books:

https://www.gretschdrumdatingguide.com/gretsch-drum-guide.html

TELL em where to get it Richard

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